What constitutes a "FULL" custom rifle build? ...

[longrangebob]

458win.... Challenged by your definition - if all is true re: your description of "metalwork & assembly" done by one Gunsmith to my specs. & not likely to B possible to replicate?!? BUT a one time made from scratch "Could Never B Duplicated" stock - except its Made by the Owner!!! Would that Count???

 

[amadjuster]

Might as well put a wrench in the works here. Anything you can buy off the shelf and put together to me isn't custom. Anyone with a lathe and some basic instructions can thread and chamber a barrel. Calling defiance for an action, McMillan for a stock, timney for a trigger, Krieger for a barrel and having it assembled is something that almost anyone can do.

Custom to me is wood and steel and something you can't buy off a shelf. A craftsman takes a block of wood and carves out a stock to fit you, metal work is done in the exact style you specify, if it's a big boomer an extra recoil lug is machined out of the barrel and the checkering is done in the style that you desire. Not pick out of these 4 templates.

Ordering a "custom" rifle from Dakota or Cooper isn't any different then ordering a new pickup or car and specifying what options you want on it.

Custom to me is a rifle built by one man from start to finish that cannot be duplicated other then by him. I'm not saying build action, trigger and barrel; I'm saying that he can take a rough action smooth it out, hone a trigger to where it's reliable, safe and crisp, turn a barrel to a custom contour etc. Factory parts from different manufactures assembled to build a rifle is just ordering a factory rifle that is tailored to your taste. Custom is a one off job. Built is a assembly of parts that you specify but can be duplicated in a instant by almost anyone.

I disagree! To be real custom, you have to go out and mine the ore, smelt it, and fashion that puppy with a file! Then you have to cut down the tree, saw it up and make blanks, then dry them and fashion that custom stock. If you are going to bed its you need to collect your own beer cans and melt then down. This should be easier than smelting the oar. Now you have to make your own brass from scratch and good luck on the powder. Wow, I'm worn out. I think I'll go buy a rifle and not worry about it.

 

[longrangebob]

amajuster — oh thanx again ever so much for the guffaw !!!

 

[Canhunter35]

Re read the title of FULL CUSTOM!!!! Not partly custom. Not a reworked great shooter, not a $250 factory rifle that spanks the pants off of a $10k rifle, full freaking custom!! Could be a fully custom turd as long as it's full custom. This could start to split hairs, but full still means full. Hermeneutically speaking, of course.

It's mostly semantics but I'll bite.
Full custom is choosing every single part of the rifle including chambering barrel twist etc. If I choose my vanguard action that's my choice. Cody pointed out why many custom actions are better, but not all customs are equal and some customs do nothing over some trued factory options. To me custom means choice, it's custom tailored to the shooter, the action remains their choice
But that's my opinion

 

[the hunter]

You guys are forgetting the most important thing.... A silly name laser engraved, in quotes, on the barrel. "Dirt nap", "thunder stick", etc, etc...

Yeet cannon, your favorite high point

 

[Deleted member 48126]

300 whisper
what the blazes does a barrel nut have to do with a custom build the rifle in my avatar is full custom and that don't have a nut apart from the one behind it

I've been building guns for 75+ years. I think I know what I'm talking bout here.

 

[Canhunter35]

I've been building guns for 75+ years. I think I know what I'm talking bout here.

Lol and the last one ain't any better than the first one!

 

[FEENIX]

It's mostly semantics but I'll bite.
Full custom is choosing every single part of the rifle including chambering barrel twist etc. If I choose my vanguard action that's my choice. Cody pointed out why many custom actions are better, but not all customs are equal and some customs do nothing over some trued factory options. To me custom means choice, it's custom tailored to the shooter, the action remains their choice
But that's my opinion

I think you it answered correctly the first time.

The only thing left is the action which was fully trued and while it's not a custom action, it does everything any custom action does.

 

[JJMoody]

It's mostly semantics but I'll bite.
Full custom is choosing every single part of the rifle including chambering barrel twist etc. If I choose my vanguard action that's my choice. Cody pointed out why many custom actions are better, but not all customs are equal and some customs do nothing over some trued factory options. To me custom means choice, it's custom tailored to the shooter, the action remains their choice
But that's my opinion

Still think it's a semi- custom at that point. Albeit probably one of higher quality, more "customly" suited to a special purpose than many "full customs". Full still means full... not better, not more accurate, expensive, cool, choiced etc... but full.

 

[JJMoody]

double post

 

[Ben Keller]

A full custom rifle can include an action from a big name factory for sure (Remington, Tikka, Savage) because you are modifying an existing item to make it better than factory, and that's all "custom" actions are (better than factory).

And what if my blueprinted/trued Remington action shoots as a good or better than your supposed "custom" action anyhow?

It all about what is being done to the rifle to make it above and beyond an out of the box rifle. If all the pieces of the rifle are above and beyond factory than it's a fully custom rifle.

 

[J E Custom]

I feel that a true custom rifle is exactly what the owner wanted and the smith built exactly what he wanted. All components were selected by the owner for the best use by himself and within his budget.

All components can be chosen buy the owner to hopefully have a one of a kind rifle, but in truth there is no such thing unless you do a special Chamber and build your own stock. All other components are available to anyone and the odds of someone else choosing the same combination are very possible.

Cost doesn't make it a true custom, only the uniqueness of it.

Just My Opinion

J E CUSTOM

 

[25WSM]

I personally think the vanguard or Howa is the best made factory action available. Better than a lot of so called custom actions. Take the one piece bolt. Never break off a handle. The m-16 style extractor. The thick side walls for stiffness. Built in recoil lug. Big flat bottom for bedding. Shep

 

[JJMoody]

I personally think the vanguard or Howa is the best made factory action available. Better than a lot of so called custom actions. Take the one piece bolt. Never break off a handle. The m-16 style extractor. The thick side walls for stiffness. Built in recoil lug. Big flat bottom for bedding. Shep

Yep! Heard the same thing from some guys whose opinions I deeply respect. Still a Howa. Second most accurate rifle I ever owned was a 300wsm bone stock howa that would bughole 5 rounds. Still a howa. Had a "Full Custom" 6.5 SAUM I couldn't shoot real well. Still a full custom.