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I did and PM'd you what I found.
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No he's not. If you run the figures on a 168 grain Hornaday Amax at 2880fps at 1,000 ft of altitude and a BC of .440, and you run the figures on the Nosler Ballistic Tip with a BC of .5 or .504 at 2750 both from the -06, the higher BC round actually hits an inch lower at 500 yards. It gains advantage over the lower BC bullet outside 500 yards and beyond, but the lower weight and BC bullet has an initial velocity advantage that isn't overcome until you get beyond 500 yards. The 168 grain drifts about 20" at 500yds in a 10mph wind while the 180 grain drifts 18", but the difference is only 2", which is negligible unless you're target shooting. If your rifle shot 3/4 moa at that distance, the groups would overlap and you probably couldn't tell the difference. And every shot would be inside a 6" circle. In other words, they would all be kill shots at 500 yards. So he's actually correct. For the information, I calculated this on the JBM calculator.
With the length of the projectile to consider and since all my 30 cal. rifles have a 1 in 10" twist, I'd be pretty happy with a 165 to 168grain bullet. I could probably get that to stabilize. If I can get enough horse power behind it, it would work out to around 1,000 or maybe 1200 yards, and I have no business shooting farther than that with my eyes and at my age, at anything other than in combat.
Interesting selection of bullets to make a comparison. Back to my whiskey
Yes Sir, we are all aware of the information you just provided, this has been hashed out and repeated over and over a thousand times here
It looks like you do a lot of hunting (or guiding) in Africa. I'd be much more interested in terminal performance, too. A high BC bullet that doesn't penetrate and stop a charging bear in, say, Alaska would be useless. Its all about the job you want the bullet and cartridge to do. A buffalo stopper just isn't something you'd use to shoot antelope at 600 or 700 yards. Some of the .375's will do it, but its not what they were designed for. Since this new bullet isn't a target bullet but a hunting bullet, I expect it will be/is designed to give good to great terminal performance out to around 600 yards, and if the BC is above 0.42, it will be just fine for those distances, provided it can be pushed to comparable velocities with other bullets of the same BC. For that matter, I've used the Remington CorLokt 185 grain .323cal bullet in an 8mm-06 AI to shoot out to 600 yards, and it was consistent in trajectory and accuracy. It was not in any way a high BC bullet, but it shot inside 4" at 600, which was as far as I could shoot on the range I was using at the time, and it sent that round down range at about 2850fps. It had a 26" barrel, so it got a little more out of the cartridge but it shot very well and held inside 0.7" at 100 yards with that bullet. That was in 1999, and I was an NCO at Ft. Riley at the time, so those were the bullets I could afford in that caliber. But they worked.
Only Hammer guys stack them against Hammer bullets. As I said, I will never use Hammer for comparison when it comes to BC for my intended purpose; even Steve acknowledges it. You guys just cannot leave it alone. You will never see me do the same on any Hammer threads.
That's because those are what I was loading for my M1 yesterday. I tried the Amaxes with Superformance and Remington 9 1/2 primers last Wednesday using a charge of 58.7grains and Winchester brass, and they gave me 5 shot groups of about 1.5 inches at 100 yards, while ejecting just beside me and sending the brass about two feet. I've loaded some more to try this Wednesday at about 0.5 grain higher to get the rifle to function a little better, and will load some 180 grain Sierras for it in a control powder and load to see how it shoots those, too. I'll test accuracy with an -03A3 and 10 power scope. The BCs come straight from Hornaday and Nosler. I'm going to try some 168 grain Hornaday Match and maybe some 175 grain Sierra MK's, too. But I'll probably use IMR 4350 for these loads. I really wish Hornaday was still making the 178 grain Amax. All my .30's thought those bullets walked on water. Enjoy your whiskey.
Well that's because I wrote this about 7 hours ago, before this went to 17 pages, and just because they covered it after I posted this doesn't change what I said. He was right, period.
Nothing wrong with that.
