Thebear_78
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My nula 1-8 twist 25/06 is under 7 pounds scoped, suppressor, and loaded.
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Suppressor on mountain rifle
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KiwiIan
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Hi guys, I have 4 rifles fitted with suppressors. More hunters than ever are hunting with short barreled rifles (<20"). Short barrel + suppressor in my experience make hunting/shooting just that bit more enjoyable.
I run local New Zealand made over barrel type suppressors - 2 x Hardy Gen V's and 2 x DPT suppressors. The Hardy suppressors are on a 223 and a 308, 20" & 16" barrels respectively. The 2 DPT's are on another short 308 Bergara takedown 16.5" and a 21" 7mm rem mag.
Sorry for the long winded comments.
I run local New Zealand made over barrel type suppressors - 2 x Hardy Gen V's and 2 x DPT suppressors. The Hardy suppressors are on a 223 and a 308, 20" & 16" barrels respectively. The 2 DPT's are on another short 308 Bergara takedown 16.5" and a 21" 7mm rem mag.
Sorry for the long winded comments.
Just workout more.
This is going on a 30" barrel and it will be used for hunting.
This is going on a 30" barrel and it will be used for hunting.
Hope you have a gunbearer!
I took off the goofy muzzle break looking end and put a flat end cap.
6" now.
It's always interesting reading other's perspectives. I was in the no suppressor camp for decades. I seemed to look for reasons to justify my situation. I don't like heavy rifles (10+ pounds) for hunting. All I can tell you is running suppressed has changed my shooting experience dramatically. There are situations where a 7" suppressor becomes a bit cumbersome, but if you plan your setup appropriately it is a non-issue. The pro's outweigh the con's by a wide margin running suppressed. Blast mitigation and sound suppression just trump a few FPS improvement. I sure wish I had not been a stubborn shooter looking for ways to justify not using a suppressor. I would pay a lot of money to stop the constant ringing in my ears.
coopsdaddy
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What do you mean?
This may be a stupid question, and I apologize in advance if it is, but does POI typically change between suppressed and not?
The reason I ask is that I've wondered if it was feasible to carry the suppressor in my backpack and just screw it on when a longer range shot presents itself? Could a person still take a shorter range shot without it, if time didn't permit getting the suppressor on?
With my 338 having a 30" barrel, carrying it mounted may not be ideal.
Still on the same fence as the OP and trying to learn...
The reason I ask is that I've wondered if it was feasible to carry the suppressor in my backpack and just screw it on when a longer range shot presents itself? Could a person still take a shorter range shot without it, if time didn't permit getting the suppressor on?
With my 338 having a 30" barrel, carrying it mounted may not be ideal.
Still on the same fence as the OP and trying to learn...
What model is that?
Weight?
My POI shift is minimal with my suppressor at reasonably short range. Maybe it is due to a relatively stiff barrel and reasonably light suppressor. Most of the traveling quick shots will be well within the kill zone if they are presented to me. Your results may vary, but I would assume you could test to determine the POI shift. It should be consistent.
lancetkenyon
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While I agree with all of this information, it has no bearing on a short, light mountain rifle.
It has on the rifles I had sighted in prior to receiving the suppressors. By about .4 to .8MIL.
I have several rifles that will never see a shot go down the barrel without a suppressor attached.
As for "performance", I never go with raw speed as my defining criteria. Fornlong range, I need the most accurate load the rifle will shoot. If that happens to be at the top end, fantastic. If it is 100fps or more off max, but shoots in the .2s vs .7s, give me the small group every time. There is a BIG difference between a 2" capable rifle @ 1000 vs a 7" in the same conditions. 100fps is not that big of a deal compared to the accuracy potention. To me, THAT is where "performance" is key.
All that being said, I only have one 20" barrel vs seven 26" barrels. Four 22" and three 24" in between.
I have a 20" and a 26" in the exact same chambering, 6.5SS. 118 to 125fps difference with the exact same load tested numerous times with various loads. But they are not set up to shoot the same loads now. 26" shoots a 26gr heavier bullet (156 Elite @ 3036fps) at only 40fps less velocity than the 20" (130 OTM @ 3076fps). The 20" shoots the exact same 156 load at 2916fps. And vice versa, the 26" shoots the 130 OTM load at 3195fps. Neither of these loads are near max either. Just where they shoot best. Both are around 80fps below max using stable powders. I could step on the gas w. RL26 in both and gain another 100+fps, but again, I want "performance". Which to me is temp stability across 100°+ of possible hunting/shooting temperatures. The cool burning, and clean burning are an added bonus.
That over the barrel suppressor looks interesting and may be very beneficial for the longer barrel.
Does anyone know if suppressors can be imported? My guess is no, but that Hardy looks interesting.
Is there anyone stateside making an over the barrel suppressor?
Kiwi do over the barrel suppressors work better than the other type of suppressors ? Which type do you like better ?
Hal
