Thats awesome. And as just a useless info kinda way..I was just out in Vegas over Christmas. **** it was cold!
LOL
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Thats awesome. And as just a useless info kinda way..I was just out in Vegas over Christmas. **** it was cold!
LOL
bigngreen
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I range elk all the time out to 15-1600 yards with my 1600B and if I bag it and am in good light I've ranged multiple elk in the 1900-1998 yard range. I've ranged antelope which are hard out to a mile but I practice as much with my rangefinders as I do my rifles.
I am enjoying all the info being shared.
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elkaholic
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I have ranged out to 2000 yards with my Leica 1600 and it is a fine rangefinder but I am thinking I might want the new Sig and carry less equipment......Rich
jett
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Quick question please. With just the range finder, can you look at "what if" solutions without actually ranging something?
Say you just want to know what the elevation call would be on an 1150 yard shot facing due east with a 5 mph cross wind. Is it possible to get this answer without actually ranging an 1150 yard target? If not, can the "what if" solution be found using the app and will the app give all the other details like energy and velocity.
Say you just want to know what the elevation call would be on an 1150 yard shot facing due east with a 5 mph cross wind. Is it possible to get this answer without actually ranging an 1150 yard target? If not, can the "what if" solution be found using the app and will the app give all the other details like energy and velocity.
DocUSMCRetired
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No, that is what the Kestrel is for.
DocUSMCRetired
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I decided to do a quick video, this shows you the menu and reticle choices - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yewZFNTyULY
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Maybe I missed it but does the 2400 have a compass in it to adjust for the direction your shooting and factor this and coriolis into the solution?
DocUSMCRetired
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Yes, here is a view of the Target screen. The two inputs marked with the Yellow Kilo Symbol can be overwritten to be anything you want. However when the Kilo symbol is present then it is taking live readings from the LRF.
cahunter805
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Thank you Doc!
DocUSMCRetired
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Pretty good review from Long Range Only.
Hits an elk at 1221 yards.
Hits a calf elk at 1406 yards deer sized target (150-200lbs).
Ranges a tree at 2022 yards.
Ranged a reflective 1.5 foot sign at 3180 yards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHnf6S2Ru1k
Hits an elk at 1221 yards.
Hits a calf elk at 1406 yards deer sized target (150-200lbs).
Ranges a tree at 2022 yards.
Ranged a reflective 1.5 foot sign at 3180 yards.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHnf6S2Ru1k
Just finished Jeff's review. Good stuff. This looks like a great product and I'll be anxious to see what other end users have to say about it.
I did some serious low light testing tonight with the Sig 2400 and the Gunwerks G7 gen 2.
First, my visual test was at early dusk still some low light in the sky looking at green shrubs, brown desert shrubs and a rock wall with both RFs mounted to a tripod. I allowed my eyes to adjust to the low light conditions for ten minutes. It would be just barely too late to legally shoot in a hunting scenario.
I'm a professional camera operator in the film and television business and have spent 38 year looking through lenses as a professional.
What I saw with my eye was that there's ZERO perceived low light performance difference and I saw details in the shadows equally between the two systems.
BUT... there's more to this than meets the eye so keep reading...
The next test was with a Sekonic L758 Cine digital hand held light meter, largely considered the industry standard in film and television. I attached the meter to the viewfinders with light sealed adapters and both RFs were attached to tripods for this.
The difference was .1 fstop, not 1 but .1 with the G7 narrowly winning that. Keep in mind that no-one here could tell the difference in .1 stop, usually about .3 is what people will see but only if you turn the source light on and off while they are expecting it.
Again I found that the G7 is a bit more forgiving with eye placement due to the large eyepiece.
All of the above results are based on purely looking through the lenses without any menus or reticles glowing.
The interesting bit is that the G7 even adjusted on it's lowest brightness setting overwhelmed the viewfinder as being too bright and also when there's a dark background you see the LED circuit board and it's traces glowing. Also, the last setting of the G7 was on high so when I hit the ranging button my ambient adjusted eyes got a pop. I turned it down and gave my eyes a few more minutes to adjust but still the LED obscured the entire area I was using to test.
The Sig 2400's auto dimming really won this test hands down in that the reticle illuminated so low that you could still see the detail in the shadows and there was no circuitry trace mess going on. All I saw was what I wanted to see and that was aiming point, horizontal marks and the background.
So, despite being imperceptibly brighter the G7 screwed the pooch on these tests with a too bright LED and a messy light spill on the boards internally.
Again, there's nothing very scientific about my testing. I'd never shoot an animal in light this low BUT I definitely will range animals and other features as soon as I can see something in the mornings. I killed my Nevada public land muley this year just 2-3 minutes after legal light but I had ranged his trail and paths the day before and knew his habits. Had I ranged him that early with the G7 I'd have ruined my low light vision.
~Robert
First, my visual test was at early dusk still some low light in the sky looking at green shrubs, brown desert shrubs and a rock wall with both RFs mounted to a tripod. I allowed my eyes to adjust to the low light conditions for ten minutes. It would be just barely too late to legally shoot in a hunting scenario.
I'm a professional camera operator in the film and television business and have spent 38 year looking through lenses as a professional.
What I saw with my eye was that there's ZERO perceived low light performance difference and I saw details in the shadows equally between the two systems.
BUT... there's more to this than meets the eye so keep reading...
The next test was with a Sekonic L758 Cine digital hand held light meter, largely considered the industry standard in film and television. I attached the meter to the viewfinders with light sealed adapters and both RFs were attached to tripods for this.
The difference was .1 fstop, not 1 but .1 with the G7 narrowly winning that. Keep in mind that no-one here could tell the difference in .1 stop, usually about .3 is what people will see but only if you turn the source light on and off while they are expecting it.
Again I found that the G7 is a bit more forgiving with eye placement due to the large eyepiece.
All of the above results are based on purely looking through the lenses without any menus or reticles glowing.
The interesting bit is that the G7 even adjusted on it's lowest brightness setting overwhelmed the viewfinder as being too bright and also when there's a dark background you see the LED circuit board and it's traces glowing. Also, the last setting of the G7 was on high so when I hit the ranging button my ambient adjusted eyes got a pop. I turned it down and gave my eyes a few more minutes to adjust but still the LED obscured the entire area I was using to test.
The Sig 2400's auto dimming really won this test hands down in that the reticle illuminated so low that you could still see the detail in the shadows and there was no circuitry trace mess going on. All I saw was what I wanted to see and that was aiming point, horizontal marks and the background.
So, despite being imperceptibly brighter the G7 screwed the pooch on these tests with a too bright LED and a messy light spill on the boards internally.
Again, there's nothing very scientific about my testing. I'd never shoot an animal in light this low BUT I definitely will range animals and other features as soon as I can see something in the mornings. I killed my Nevada public land muley this year just 2-3 minutes after legal light but I had ranged his trail and paths the day before and knew his habits. Had I ranged him that early with the G7 I'd have ruined my low light vision.
~Robert
