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Scope field evaluations on rokslide

My 338 NM was there when someone pulled out in front of me,My March held zero, rifle ended in back. I did get a bump on my head, but the rifles hit me harder Send scopes and ill roll test em!
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I can't believe I've actually read this entire thread. And Unfortunately I've come to the conclusion I just need to round up all my piece of **** scopes and smelt them into an ingot of metal. They may be far more useful that way.

I wouldn't sell these poser scopes to some unwitting buyer on flea bay. That would be unconscionable.
 
I do have to wonder why these people are all so ridiculously uncoordinated, that they are constantly dropping their rifles to?
Thank God they don't have babies, or carry eggs in from the car!
But I wouldn't let them use anything of mine, and I'm usually an extremely sharing person.
But no way I would lend them anything, not my ATV, snowmobile, guns, rangefinder, dishes, laptop, cellphone, or anything else, because they are incapable of being at all careful, or even coordinated enough to carry, or ride anything.
I was in Nursing school with a guy like this years ago, he was always dropping stuff, tripped while walking, and I soon distanced myself from him. If I ever drop my rifle, it would make me do some deep self evaluation. It would likely make the decision to never have kids easier to, because it would seem logical that I would also be dropping my baby.
Hopefully you droppers have a great case on your phone, we all know how delicate iphone screens are. I've seen them break even from a gentle fall.
When I get so old that I'm dropping my rifles, I will know that its time to stop hunting, and take up bingo.....
Well being an older guy, I remember going down to my grandparents when I was a kid and the big thing was going to play bingo and win the quilt which my mom won on several occasions. I did not go, but stayed and watched a football game with my dad and uncles and Grandpa. Sorry bingo not in the cards for me. At any rate, I am one of those guys that drops my iphone, my ipads, laptops, shot recoil springs off to neverland when cleaning my guns. But never dropped one of my kids or other kids, our new puppy did manage to launch herself out of my arms when I was carrying her. But I haven't dropped any of my rifles, did drop my Walther once and broke an extractor, and several rifles have been bumped to the ground by my daughter. I do check zero on every rifle annually, typically never seen a change. I have a scope/rig combination that is solid, love that old scope and it is one that was bumped/dropped while on a rifle and both of the locking knobs on the elevation/windage got knocked off tried to glue it but they take turns flying off so the scope is retired. But the scope/rings still holds zero and it is tightened in a way, if it is off mounted on a rifle the adjustment clicks are now hard to move and solid, got to put the gorilla grip to move those bad boys and they definitely have a distinctive click. I use this scope whenever I have a problem with a new scope/rifle combo to determine is it the rifle or the scope setup. Every time it is the scope setup or the scope itself. I have scopes currently on my rifles that have failed the evaluation. But on my rifles they have never failed to hold zero or failed to track properly. I don't like to do the math in my head so much and switched over to MOA reticles I am sure my old instructor from 45 years ago is probably rolling over in his grave, but oh well rest in peace my friend. My point is I take these types of evaluations with a grain of salt and set up my rifles the best I can, can a rifle get knocked around in my gun case or truck, or dropped yep, will the ones that are locked in their pelican cases get knocked around? No and they always hold zero and if I do my part I can still shoot through the same hole at 100 and 200 yards, having trouble at 300 yards now, but at a hundred yards l can still adjust an MOA windage and track and shoot each MOA line on the grid to 5 MOA to the left return to zero and do the same to 5 MOA right and do the same on the elevation. Some of these are same of the scopes that were rated failed on these evaluations. Will I replace any of these scopes rated as failed, not at this time. As I mentioned earlier I always zero my rifles just in case. I do take stock in evaluations like these performed as I want to understand the robustness of the design of the erector system of the riflescope, as when I go on the hunts of a lifetime I want to know should I bring backup gear.

My hope and point is that if you ever become as clumsy as I am, and start dropping things, (like your rifles) give yourself a break and still continue to hunt, I couldn't see a hunter go to play bingo on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon as exciting as it must be. You won't die from a heart attack but you may turn to stone.
 
Dropped my Vectronix LRF, $1200 quote to look at it, could cost more to fix.Im sure it just out of alignment, expensive paper weight
 
I'm in research too and I can absolutely say not every experiment is double blinded.

This is a coincidence, I am in blind research.

I have been blindly reaching in to a bag of powdered donuts hoping for a chocolate, by the time I got to the bottom of the bag all I found was a sore stomach and donut powder is hard to get off of a black hoodie.

YMMV
 
This is a coincidence, I am in blind research.

I have been blindly reaching in to a bag of powdered donuts hoping for a chocolate, by the time I got to the bottom of the bag all I found was a sore stomach and donut powder is hard to get off of a black hoodie.

YMMV
Was the number of each color specified on the bag?
 
Its a Rivers Bend Gun Proof anti, area 419,TT,24'' w brake,Proof stock.My 338 very similar has pic rail on front now and a nx8 Think the guy I got it from was in Georgia
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These threads always end up being hilarious. It's like nobody can do their own testing when it takes a few minutes the next time your out shooting to give ol' Betsy a few drops on each side and see how it does.

Lots of people haven't had any problems but they haven't actually bothered to put their money where their mouth is and find out.

I can tell you it's a lot less painful to miss a piece of paper then it is to miss (or wound) an animal. So quite guessing and drop it like it's hot!
 
Well being an older guy, I remember going down to my grandparents when I was a kid and the big thing was going to play bingo and win the quilt which my mom won on several occasions. I did not go, but stayed and watched a football game with my dad and uncles and Grandpa. Sorry bingo not in the cards for me. At any rate, I am one of those guys that drops my iphone, my ipads, laptops, shot recoil springs off to neverland when cleaning my guns. But never dropped one of my kids or other kids, our new puppy did manage to launch herself out of my arms when I was carrying her. But I haven't dropped any of my rifles, did drop my Walther once and broke an extractor, and several rifles have been bumped to the ground by my daughter. I do check zero on every rifle annually, typically never seen a change. I have a scope/rig combination that is solid, love that old scope and it is one that was bumped/dropped while on a rifle and both of the locking knobs on the elevation/windage got knocked off tried to glue it but they take turns flying off so the scope is retired. But the scope/rings still holds zero and it is tightened in a way, if it is off mounted on a rifle the adjustment clicks are now hard to move and solid, got to put the gorilla grip to move those bad boys and they definitely have a distinctive click. I use this scope whenever I have a problem with a new scope/rifle combo to determine is it the rifle or the scope setup. Every time it is the scope setup or the scope itself. I have scopes currently on my rifles that have failed the evaluation. But on my rifles they have never failed to hold zero or failed to track properly. I don't like to do the math in my head so much and switched over to MOA reticles I am sure my old instructor from 45 years ago is probably rolling over in his grave, but oh well rest in peace my friend. My point is I take these types of evaluations with a grain of salt and set up my rifles the best I can, can a rifle get knocked around in my gun case or truck, or dropped yep, will the ones that are locked in their pelican cases get knocked around? No and they always hold zero and if I do my part I can still shoot through the same hole at 100 and 200 yards, having trouble at 300 yards now, but at a hundred yards l can still adjust an MOA windage and track and shoot each MOA line on the grid to 5 MOA to the left return to zero and do the same to 5 MOA right and do the same on the elevation. Some of these are same of the scopes that were rated failed on these evaluations. Will I replace any of these scopes rated as failed, not at this time. As I mentioned earlier I always zero my rifles just in case. I do take stock in evaluations like these performed as I want to understand the robustness of the design of the erector system of the riflescope, as when I go on the hunts of a lifetime I want to know should I bring backup gear.

My hope and point is that if you ever become as clumsy as I am, and start dropping things, (like your rifles) give yourself a break and still continue to hunt, I couldn't see a hunter go to play bingo on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon as exciting as it must be. You won't die from a heart attack but you may turn to stone.
Now that you mention it, don't think I've ever dropped one of my rifles either. I have taken a few good tumbles in the woods, but always protected the rifle more than myself it seems.
Now, have thrown a couple down on the ground and stomped on them, but that's not the subject of this thread. ;)
 
I just got back from a NM elk hunt. Stopped at NRA center and confirmed zero. Four days later first two shots went over elks back at 420. Using kentucky windage next 2 put him down. First 2 kept bugging me and went to range Monday and scope was 6 inches high and 2 right. VX5 3-15. Could have been ring slippage.

What are solid rings other than NF?
 
I just got back from a NM elk hunt. Stopped at NRA center and confirmed zero. Four days later first two shots went over elks back at 420. Using kentucky windage next 2 put him down. First 2 kept bugging me and went to range Monday and scope was 6 inches high and 2 right. VX5 3-15. Could have been ring slippage.

What are solid rings other than NF?
Rings: Hawkins Precision

Did you experience a change in elevation? A 1000-2000 foot change in elevation will drastically change your point of impact resulting in a high shot because of the change in altitude and air density. I suspect that many so called malfunctions are related to zeroing a rifle in the southern US where humidity approaches 90% and then hunting in the mountains in Colorado, New Mexico or Alaska without adjusting for elevation and the change in air density.?
 

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