Ramblings and Such From Hunting Coyote

[trapper1954]

I was going to ask about how the wind affected them, as we have a lot of wind here often running 20 mph plus. Even with preloading them can you tilt them so that the lock is slightly up hill, or will the preload overcome that, and the wind blow them closed anyway? Under the fences here I run a 10"- 12" loop about 1 1/2" or 2" off the ground so the coyote's front feet go under it and most badgers go under it as well. With them not being coated I can see where they would rust fast once cleaned of oil. What type of breakaway device if any do they have on them? I suspect that once they got a rust coat that simmering them in logwood crystals would give them a nice black color like traps. Then airing them well for week or two. With the wind and dusty climate, we have they might collect a lot of dust with mineral oil here, I wonder if waxing them the way I used to wax my traps would work, I stopped waxing my traps because the mice would smell it and dig at my sets, especially the pack rats.

Wax might be a bad idea. You can, while boiling in logwood put a little trap wax in that water and pull them thru it. Thin thin coat and you wont screw the lock up. I do use mineral oil from time to time, nothing most of the time. They dont last long here, Wednesday had a 3/4 mile stretch of fence with 13 or 14 scuddle holes snared and all were down, kinked or occupied. Thats every 2 days, pigs.

 

[DSheetz]

I found that when waxing my traps, the trick to getting a nice thin coat was to let the metal come up to the same temperature as the wax, so it didn't cool the wax too fast. But as has been talked about we are a dry climate so maybe they don't need as much protection here as in a wetter climate. It looks like to me that you have way too many pigs, not a good thing in my way of thinking I would rather have a coyote problem.

 

[ohlongarmisle]

I found that when waxing my traps, the trick to getting a nice thin coat was to let the metal come up to the same temperature as the wax, so it didn't cool the wax too fast. But as has been talked about we are a dry climate so maybe they don't need as much protection here as in a wetter climate. It looks like to me that you have way too many pigs, not a good thing in my way of thinking I would rather have a coyote problem.

Mineral oil stays well in severe weather, wax hardens and interferes with the locking action, wind can do lots of things ,throw your snares around where a less than desirable catch can be had. also sometimes a small coyote can make it through and get caught around the the abdomen where the hips are,a recipe for a chewout or a gallant attempt to. Have had some get leg caught only, only because I check regularly even if with binoculars at a distance has my success rate remained high.

 

[DSheetz]

With the winds that we have here sometimes nothing we can do will keep them open. The last couple of years we have had a few days and nights where the wind gusts were over 90 mph, and several times of 40 mph winds for several days in a row. Not much helps then. With the cam-locks I can tip the locks upwards a little and keep them open even with preloading the cable, and even with the Pederson knot, I could do that. I will try it and see what happens when the smaller 5/64" 1x19 cable snares show up in a few days. I used mineral oil as suggested on my M-44'S and had a problem with the fine dust and sand interfering with them operating but they are a completely different device more like the sear in your trigger on your rifle, and they are set just a little above the ground level. We have a 72-hour check law, so they don't go that long here for me either. Experimenting with them when they come will tell me a lot about how they react to my environment. It appears that it might be interesting and another learning curve for me. With the M-44'S I ended up using a scent free silicone spray as a lube and corrosion inhibitor. It's a lot about learning new things and checking if there is something that will do a better job for me, as well as other people possibly taking something useful away for their own benefit.

 

[trapper1954]

I found that when waxing my traps, the trick to getting a nice thin coat was to let the metal come up to the same temperature as the wax, so it didn't cool the wax too fast. But as has been talked about we are a dry climate so maybe they don't need as much protection here as in a wetter climate. It looks like to me that you have way too many pigs, not a good thing in my way of thinking I would rather have a coyote problem.

Well sir, there are too many pigs everywhere. They are a predator, carnivores that kill livestock and wildlife, they eat every morsel leaving nothing but a bloody 64 sq. ft. area on the ground, no buzzards lurking, nada. These pigs are in the sheep and with 3 lambs gone and no remains its time for war. I will remove all pigs from this place with pleasure. A little advise just shootem, they dont have to drop... I have trapper friends catchin 40-50 at a time.

 

[DSheetz]

As far as I can tell they are a very destructive, invasive species. What round do you preferer for hunting them? I know that you snare them I have seen that. Do you use enclosers for trapping them as well? Have you used the bigger live traps for them also? I know they are a strong and aggressive animal, that causes a lot of damage to animals and crops valued in the millions of dollars each year. A friend of mine that lived in southern Indiana raised hogs for a living and I have seen what a sounder of hogs can do in short order to a field of corn.

 

[trapper1954]

I have several traps, box traps, round traps etc. As far as guns go my 25-06, 120gr hp, has killed 500 maybe, Ruger #1 varmint. You will like this, had a border collie, I'd howl on the horn howler I made and the pigs get excited and start gathering and making noise. I'd send the dog and he'd gather em in a wad and I'd smokem, they'd scatter and Dog would bunch em again 100 yds away, run like hell and layem out again.. Me and a friend killed 14 one morning in a running gun battle by 9. Dog got bit by a rattler in the top of the back and died right there, rest his sole. Gonna break out my dpms 308, running is out anymore, I'm a has been in that area.. This is a panel trap with a root door. I have a lot of panels.

Caught 62 in 30 days here 2 years back.

BBQ the eatin size and chunk the big stinky ones.

 

[ohlongarmisle]

I have several traps, box traps, round traps etc. As far as guns go my 25-06 has killed 500 maybe, Ruger #1 varmint. You will like this, had a border collie, I'd howl on the horn howler I made and the pigs get excited and start gathering and making noise. I'd send the dog and he'd gather em in a wad and I'd smokem, they'd scatter and Dog would bunch em again 100 yds away, run like hell and layem out again.. Me and a friend killed 14 one morning in a running gun battle by 9. Dog got bit by a rattler in the top of the back and died right there, rest his sole. Gonna break out my dpms 308, running is out anymore, I'm a has been in that area.. This is a panel trap with a root door. I have a lot of panels.
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View attachment 529813 Caught 62 in 30 days here 2 years back.
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BBQ the eatin size and chunk the big stinky ones.

Fine day there wish we had them here.Some moving in southern Ohio near Shawnee state park.

 

[trapper1954]

Fine day there wish we had them here.Some moving in southern Ohio near Shawnee state park.

Dont wish for them. Brother

 

[trapper1954]

Heres another short story. Ole 3 toes..

I laid for that guy and had nothing but misfortune. From melding coons to curious foxs and it was most likely a fox I let go.

His tracks in there... But the stinkin something played in the dirt..

 

[DSheetz]

I like the 25-06 and the 30-06. I run 125 grain Nosler ballistic tips in my 30-06. I run 120 grain Nosler ballistic tips in my 6.5 x 284 and my 6.5 creed moor. The bigger hogs I've seen were too smelly for my liking. What a destructive animal. I like the construction of your traps. I had a 62-coyote month one year when I was working for the county, and they sent me out to a large sheep ranch, I took four dens of pups in one day on that ranch a long day, located them in the morning and worked the rest of the day taking the dens and adults. I don't meet a lot of people willing to put in the time and work but there are some out there that will, I have to give them my respect. Is the state or USDA working on the hog problem in your area I know that Collage Station did a lot of studies on coyote control down in Texas. It looks like a birth control program might be helpful with them like the USDA was talking about with giving rabies vaccines to the wild canines, in some areas back east.

 

[trapper1954]

I like the 25-06 and the 30-06. I run 125 grain Nosler ballistic tips in my 30-06. I run 120 grain Nosler ballistic tips in my 6.5 x 284 and my 6.5 creed moor. The bigger hogs I've seen were too smelly for my liking. What a destructive animal. I like the construction of your traps. I had a 62-coyote month one year when I was working for the county, and they sent me out to a large sheep ranch, I took four dens of pups in one day on that ranch a long day, located them in the morning and worked the rest of the day taking the dens and adults. I don't meet a lot of people willing to put in the time and work but there are some out there that will, I have to give them my respect. Is the state or USDA working on the hog problem in your area I know that Collage Station did a lot of studies on coyote control down in Texas. It looks like a birth control program might be helpful with them like the USDA was talking about with giving rabies vaccines to the wild canines, in some areas back east.

gov trappers take blood and something else maybe from hogs, check for sudo rabies, bangs etc pigs are a bad thing.. Gov drops baited vaccine down Eagle Pass way and out west like Sonora and later call some fox and test them for value. (ate it or didnt)..

Invasive Wildlife – Texas A&M Agrilife Extension Service

agrilifeextension.tamu.edu

 

[trapper1954]

https://agrilife.org/txwildlifeservices/files/2011/07/ManagePredation.pdf

 

[HRM Johnny]

Wow. Thank you trapper 1954. I found the brochure very interesting. I found it particularly interesting that they are trying to control predation through contraception. They mentioned that one can request a book: Contraception in wildlife (technical bulletin 1853.)
Has anyone here requested that book?