Ok I am not a big fan of the 6.5 Creedmore

[VLD Pilot]

It doesnt matter if you reload or not. The availability it much better than the x47 or 260 rem. Everyone and their brother makes rifles, brass and ammo for it. Not true for the others. The x47 has nothing on the creed and the 260 rem has maybe 50 fps on the creed. I'll take availability over 50fps any day of the week. That's just me though and everyone is different which is ok. Some people just have issues with more options I guess.

I just prefer a couple other cartridges over the Creedmoor because I reload and build my own rifles. I find the performance of my 260 bests my 6.5 CM to the point where it offers not only more performance but accuracy is better (In my case) and I have alot of reloading components for it. In the end, it's simply a personal preference issue. Being old school, the 260 is my choice. Not sure why I haven't ackley'd it. Personally i prefer the 6.5-284 over any of the 6.5s. I have a Creedmoor in the safe. It has 365 rounds thru it. Shoots very well and will do anything my 260 will. Only thing it won't do is make me as happy when I'm behind it in the woods or at the range. I started using the .260 in the 90s when it was introduced. My LE Marksmanship unit picked it up as an urban sniper gun. Myself and two other members had one issued to us and from that day I've been a fan of the cartridge ever since. Built my son one and now he's moved on from it to the 6.5-284. Like me, he prefers a different 6.5 as well. He fell in love with my 6.5-284 and decided he had to have one. As long as the 260 continues its life without becoming obsolete from the new blood cartridges, I'm good. Long live the .260. It just happens to have alot of cousins

 

[Predator 22]

Many of us are just sick of all of the over-hyping of the 6.5CM and all of the mystical magical claims that go therewith.

And I'm sure that the guys that shoot it are tired of hearing how bad, redundant, inappropriate, Incapable, WHATEVER!
The Creed is here to stay. That's undeniable, and imho, has advantages compared to the 6.5x47, 260, and the Swede. And this is coming from a guy that has a 260 and a Swede and not a Creedmoor.

 

[WildRose]

And I'm sure that the guys that shoot it are tired of hearing how bad, redundant, inappropriate, Incapable, WHATEVER!
The Creed is here to stay. That's undeniable, and imho, has advantages compared to the 6.5x47, 260, and the Swede. And this is coming from a guy that has a 260 and a Swede and not a Creedmoor.

There's nothing the 6.5CM does that wasnt' already being done by other 6.5's and many out perform it in every way.

It's a decent middle of the road 6.5, that's it.

Hornady and Ruger did a brilliant job of development, planning, setting up the market, promoting, and advertising it That's it.

If the Remington people were even half as competent the market would have already been saturated with the .260 and there would have been no room for it.

What's irritating is all the ridiculous hype that has followed.

Ten years from now it will still have a following just like the .260 and 6.5L have today but it will be replaced with yet another well marketed cartridge that does nothing new or special.

 

[djm670]

I just prefer a couple other cartridges over the Creedmoor because I reload and build my own rifles. I find the performance of my 260 bests my 6.5 CM to the point where it offers not only more performance but accuracy is better (In my case) and I have alot of reloading components for it. In the end, it's simply a personal preference issue. Being old school, the 260 is my choice. Not sure why I haven't ackley'd it. Personally i prefer the 6.5-284 over any of the 6.5s. I have a Creedmoor in the safe. It has 365 rounds thru it. Shoots very well and will do anything my 260 will. Only thing it won't do is make me as happy when I'm behind it in the woods or at the range. I started using the .260 in the 90s when it was introduced. My LE Marksmanship unit picked it up as an urban sniper gun. Myself and two other members had one issued to us and from that day I've been a fan of the cartridge ever since. Built my son one and now he's moved on from it to the 6.5-284. Like me, he prefers a different 6.5 as well. He fell in love with my 6.5-284 and decided he had to have one. As long as the 260 continues its life without becoming obsolete from the new blood cartridges, I'm good. Long live the .260. It just happens to have alot of cousins

Ha ha, one cousin that has a lot more factory ammo options with great quality bullets and loadings. So good and consistant that one typically doesn't even need to reload to achieve if not optimum performance, then performance so close to optimum that one doesn't need the extra steps involved in reloading.

And I think that is one of the things that chaps peeps behinds is that one can obtain
excellent results with a lot less work due to the quality of the ammo? And that quality production rifles are built with 1 in 8 twist to handle the heavier bullets and that factory rifles can shoot so well today.

 

[73driver]

It betters a 270 Winchester at 500 yards and does it in a short action. So... what's not to like about it?

Ah no it don't, I have a Seekins Havak 6.5 and a MOD 70 270. Real life chronometer 140 ELD-M vs 145 ELD-X, 6.5C MV 2760 500 yd Vel 2141 270 MV 2915 500 yd Vel 2168 and short action makes little real difference.

 

[WildRose]

Ha ha, one cousin that has a lot more factory ammo options with great quality bullets and loadings. So good and consistant that one typically doesn't even need to reload to achieve if not optimum performance, then performance so close to optimum that one doesn't need the extra steps involved in reloading.

And I think that is one of the things that chaps peeps behinds is that one can obtain
excellent results with a lot less work due to the quality of the ammo? And that quality production rifles are built with 1 in 8 twist to handle the heavier bullets and that factory rifles can shoot so well today.

You're not going to ever get maximum accuracy without reloading. It's simply not possible.

 

[WildRose]

Ah no it don't, I have a Seekins Havak 6.5 and a MOD 70 270. Real life chronometer 140 ELD-M vs 145 ELD-X, 6.5C MV 2760 500 yd Vel 2141 270 MV 2915 500 yd Vel 2168 and short action makes little real difference.

Yah, that's just not possible with the higher BC .277's coming onto the market.

Ten years ago maybe, because there were so few LR bullets for the .277 but that's no longer the case.

 

[73driver]

You're not going to ever get maximum accuracy without reloading. It's simply not possible.

Ahh maybe not maximum but pretty dam good. Factory ammo .3-.4 at 100 yds and just messing around at 1000 yds 8 out of 13 rounds into the X ring the worst into 9 ring.

 

[WildRose]

Ahh maybe not maximum but pretty dam good. Factory ammo .3-.4 at 100 yds and just messing around at 1000 yds 8 out of 13 rounds into the X ring the worst into 9 ring.

I can get that with factory ammo from several manufacturers in several different calibers for several different rifles.

Nothing special about the 6.5 Cm in that regard.

 

[Predator 22]

There's nothing the 6.5CM does that wasnt' already being done by other 6.5's and many out perform it in every way.

It's a decent middle of the road 6.5, that's it.

Hornady and Ruger did a brilliant job of development, planning, setting up the market, promoting, and advertising it That's it.

If the Remington people were even half as competent the market would have already been saturated with the .260 and there would have been no room for it.

Did I say it did something that wasn't already being done? No I didn't!
And yes their are many, many options that will outperform it. Was I comparing it to a 264wm or 6.5x284. Nope!
It is a decent middle of the road 6.5 and Hornady did a great job marketing it. That part you have right, but that's not "it". It is the single most popular 6.5 today and I would bet it outsells all other 6.5 rifles and ammo put together. And when the Creed entered the market it didn't really have any competition for a short action cartridge. The 260 was basically doa and the x47L was and is a niche.

 

[VLD Pilot]

Did I say it did something that wasn't already being done? No I didn't!
And yes their are many, many options that will outperform it. Was I comparing it to a 264wm or 6.5x284. Nope!
It is a decent middle of the road 6.5 and Hornady did a great job marketing it. That part you have right, but that's not "it". It is the single most popular 6.5 today and I would bet it outsells all other 6.5 rifles and ammo put together. And when the Creed entered the market it didn't really have any competition for a short action cartridge. The 260 was basically doa and the x47L was and is a niche.

If it has Hornady on it, it'll sell. Could have been a 6.8, 7.62 or 8mm Creedmoor, it would sell like hell. Performance isn't the selling point...Obviously !!!

 

[Barrelnut]

Ah no it don't, I have a Seekins Havak 6.5 and a MOD 70 270. Real life chronometer 140 ELD-M vs 145 ELD-X, 6.5C MV 2760 500 yd Vel 2141 270 MV 2915 500 yd Vel 2168 and short action makes little real difference.

The higher sectional density of the 264 bullet more than negates the trivial 27 FPS the 270 has over the CM at 500 yards. Plus the 270 takes over 25% more powder to get there (ouch)! Don't matter to me anyways, cause I run my 6.5 CM dragon slayer at 2875 FPS with 140 Berger Elite hunters and have real world velocity of 2235 FPS at 500 yards.

 

[73driver]

If it has Hornady on it, it'll sell. Could have been a 6.8, 7.62 or 8mm Creedmoor, it would sell like hell. Performance isn't the selling point...Obviously !!!

Hornady is run by people that are into shooting. While Remington is a big corporation run by"managers" and is now owned by a capital equity firm (IE bean counters). That Hornady envisioned a cartridge to shoot high BC bullets suited for long range and SAMMI specd. the proper rifling twist and provided accurate ammo for it is not "just marketing hype". Hornady's vision and execution for its 6.5 cartridge surpassed Remington efforts and that is why they won out. Hornady had a better vision for the 6.5 bore and put out a better product.

 

[73driver]

The higher sectional density of the 264 bullet more than negates the trivial 27 FPS the 270 has over the CM at 500 yards. Plus the 270 takes over 25% more powder to get there (ouch)! Don't matter to me anyways, cause I run my 6.5 CM dragon slayer at 2875 FPS with 140 Berger Elite hunters and have real world velocity of 2235 FPS at 500 yards.

145 ELD-X SD .270 140 Elite SD .287 so a tie basically. Barrel life 6.5C at 2875 fps a bit less than the 270, 270 wins that one. Recoil? Well if recoil from a 270 is too much for you then by all means go for the 6.5C. Better velocity more energy and similar SD from 0 feet out to 500 yards the 270 win. ( especially the 140 SST Superformance at MV 3000 fps) beats out your hotroded 6.5C. So your hand loaded up to full pressure limits 6.5C (hell on barrel life) is almost equal to the 270 win out to 500 yards and edges ahead a little after that is not what I call "bettering", similar to is more like it. Now we have compared apples to apples (factory loadings that is) and 270 wins, we compared factory 270 to hand loaded 6.5C (apples to oranges) a tie and wonder how hand loaded maxed out 270 compares? Not going there don't like running my loads to max. So I am now convinced that if and whenever my 270 barrel goes south (about the time a 6.5C has its third tube spun on) I may be spinning up a 6.5X55 Sweed on my long action.