I have a MOSSY 835 W/ a truglo chock and a red dot scope. Put the dot on the turkeys head and pull the trigger , SMOKED turkey!!!. When I got my 835 I tried a lot of different brand shells in 4,5,and 6 shot. I also tried heavy shot that I thought didn't pattern as good as the copper plated shot. It had too many holes in the pattern. My best patterns came with Federal 3 1/2 2oz of #5 shot. I can put a minimum of 7-10 pellets in the head & neck turkey target every shot at 60 yards. This would be my maximum range. Any thing less than 7-10 hits would not be ethical enough for me to try a shot that far