New Rifle build Please tell me why I should or should not build a 25-06

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I apologise

It's all good!

 

[DJ Fergus]

I've owned, loaded & shot multiple 25-06 and 22 Creedmoor rifles. Go with the 22 Creedmoor. Shooting an 88 grain bullet from a 22cm @ 3350mv will retain quite a bit more energy than an 85 grain from a 25-06 @ 3500mv. I can tell the difference on a 500 yard gong. The 22 Creedmoor will ring the gong much louder & harder than the 85gr in the 25-06. I have to step up to a 115gr Berger in the 25-06 in order to develop similar energy on that gong. Then I have more recoil along with the 115gr and it doesn't resist the wind as much as the 88gr in the 22 Creedmoor.

My comparison is my personal loads, an 88 eld vs a 85 ballistic tip. I also shoot a 115 VLD in the 25-06. It is a big step up from the 85 NBT but it's a noticable difference in recoil.

 

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My comparison is my personal loads, an 88 eld vs a 85 ballistic tip. I also shoot a 115 VLD in the 25-06. It is a big step up from the 85 NBT but it's a noticable difference in recoil.

Now, that makes more sense, if you have used a .25 bullet similar BC as the 88's, the KE would be different. "I" personally will never load a .25-06 anything lighter than a 110-115, as you already figured out with the Berger 115 VLD with a G1 of .483. The 110 BD2 has a G1 of .570 and the Cayuga 117 has a G1 of .580. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[DJ Fergus]

I didn't realize the b.c. was so high on the 117 Cayuga. That's exceptional. I shoot the 115 VLD. @ 3250fps. It beats the 88eld @ 3350 by about 150 ft/lbs @ 500 yds. It's advantage narrows farther down range and I burn more powder & generate more recoil with the 115. The b.c. on the 115 VLD is around .460 or so. I can see where the 25-06 would be very impressive & out perform the 22cm with the Cayuga, 131 blackjack or the 132 & 135 bergers.

 

[DJ Fergus]

Now, that makes more sense, if you have used a .25 bullet similar BC as the 88's, the KE would be different. "I" personally will never load a .25-06 anything lighter than a 110-115, as you already figured out with the Berger 115 VLD with a G1 of .483. The 110 BD2 has a G1 of .570 and the Cayuga 117 has a G1 of .580. Thanks for the clarification.

Yeah, if a fellow wants to shoot a 80 to 90 grain bullet, I would recommend a 22 Creedmoor over the 25-06. If he wants to shoot a 115-130 gr bullet, then 22 Creedmoor is not the way to go.

 

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I didn't realize the b.c. was so high on the 117 Cayuga. That's exceptional. I shoot the 115 VLD. @ 3250fps. It beats the 88eld @ 3350 by about 150 ft/lbs @ 500 yds. It's advantage narrows farther down range and I burn more powder & generate more recoil with the 115. The b.c. on the 115 VLD is around .460 or so. I can see where the 25-06 would be very impressive & out perform the 22cm with the Cayuga, 131 blackjack or the 132 & 135 bergers.

Yep, the Cayuga's BC is quite impressive. As previously noted, my .257 WBTY is specifically built to propel the Berger 133s. Meantime, I will be using the 117 Cayugas and 131 BJ's (thanks to a very dear friend).

 

[Mike Matteson]

The 25/06 is a great caliber. With the new items coming out, I would do an up grade. There a 131gr bullet out there now. It's heavier than before. I would do a few things. Look at a 280AI case down to 257 caliber, and increase the twist rate to either 7 or 7.5. So you would have to get a reamer built. The 280AI case is longer to the shoulder and standard 25/06, 7mm, 280, 30/06 case, Can get a little more powder in it.

 

[Fedwell]

Dont let anyone talk you out of it, if you want a 2506...By all means get one. If you are going to get a NEW Barrel by all means get one with a 7 or 7.5 twist. Hammer makes several New Bullets for the 25s that can be ran in the 4k range.