New Remington 700's

[Turkeytider]

They shoot rifles mainly for durability, which is where I was going on my long dissertation on cheaply made hunting rifles. Instead of handling just new cheap Remingtons in the store also handle the older OG ones and see the difference. They were made to pass down. The last complete rifle I bought was a limited M700 SSA ca. 2006 as it was a rare opportunity to get a Remington custom rifle for about $1,200.

Well, for what they pay for the stuff they shoot, they damned well should expect life long durability. I know I would. I`m really not criticizing them as a whole ( although I think some are unnecessarily unpleasant ), I think that the site caters to a different strata of shooting/gun enthusiasts than that which is represented on other sites.
We need to head the conversation back on track.

 

[Peddler 76]

Friend of mine has one in 7MM08 . It really shoots gream

Mine does also.

 

[BobHu]

xsn10s I too worked the bolt and it was smooth and zero play,solid lock up,recessed crown.A cdl had a smaller sized barrel but still smooth.

Thanks cohunt,I was just looking and wondering as I have heard of poor workmanship on some 700's when remington was still in business.Since they are out whoever is taking over wants to re-build on the remington name and establish accuracy as their number 1 priority the salesman said.
I hope it's true.

I heard while working at cabela's that the upper management of Remingtonwas able to purchase the corporation or at least the rights of the 700. They were able to purchase it because it was not their fault. The company went bankrupt, Because of the lawsuits.

 

[44-40]

The life expectancy for a Remington 700

You're correct on ADL BDL. But you opened the door. This thread is a prime example of going to a discount store to buy a discount hunting rifle. There are also a lot of people on this thread that have held or handled these new Remingtons in the store and a few that have actually have used them so the jury is still out. But you get what you pay for. Or put on layaway, lol. The life expectancy in the field for these cheap "whole" hunting rifles is seasons, which can total up to days or weeks but not a year. And I'm not just referring to Remington. Like I said in my post you can go that route and get lucky on the receiver. But I didn't and won't on whole cheap Remington or Savage rifles. Been there and done that. The better argument is there are now better actions based on the M700. So, why buy a stock Remington receiver like I did? But if I had to do it all over again I wouldn't change a thing because it worked. If it didn't I wouldn't have posted a source for them along with my experience with one. Your suggestion to buy a $550 rifle and go through all the trouble of replacing everything just for the receiver only to find out it isn't true is throwing the dice and losing. But if your happy with a 1 moa rifle than knock yourself out, lol. This is a long distance forum. Go be poor somewhere else, lol. For Savage I also got my actions from NSS. There is a reason these sort of vendors stay in business with good reputations.

"The life expectancy of a Remington 700 is in days, weeks, maybe a season it won't last a year." ... I bought a Rem 700 LTR in 308 total factory, put 8000 rds through the factory barrel, rebarreled it, trued tbe action another 8000 rd, rebarreled again, I have around 22,000 high pressure match loads on that Remington 700 action. And many other Remington 700 actions with over 10,000 rds, have been rebarreled, but no action has failed. Also using a trued Remington 700 and stock Ruger test rifle for 80,000 psi hybrid cases In 308 Win and 6.5 Creedmoor ... and thats just me. What about all those Rem 700s used by military snipers by the thousands, since the Vietnam War, and all the trued factory actions and some not, that won matches before all the aftermarket actions were even conceived. Mike Walker, brought the 700 to bench rest with his new 222 Rem cartridge and the Rem 700 action and shot tiny groups, the 40X in several configurations and calibers, available from Remington, the action was the same as the production action, with the bottom ground for good bedding, and a non hammer forged barrel.
Most of mine are older, and they have been good rifle actions...I have not handled a new 700, and most of mine are 20 plus yrs old, and were good rifles with no failures and lasted a lifetime in most cases with heavy use.
Your claims of lasting a week, etc seem overly exaggerated, to the point of disdain and snobbish toward anyone who does not have your taste for expensive custom actions, which are nice but not even necessary, like a good barrel.
I am grateful that common gun companies, Remington, Ruger, Savage etc offer products of usually decient quality, at a reasonable price, for "poor" folks to enjoy shooting sports, and add more value, and necessary protection, to their lives...you must be, and are commanded to armed, high dollar is not in the command,... but possession is.
"He who hath not a sword, let him sell his garments, to obtain one."

 

[PBramble]

You're correct on ADL BDL. But you opened the door. This thread is a prime example of going to a discount store to buy a discount hunting rifle. There are also a lot of people on this thread that have held or handled these new Remingtons in the store and a few that have actually have used them so the jury is still out. But you get what you pay for. Or put on layaway, lol. The life expectancy in the field for these cheap "whole" hunting rifles is seasons, which can total up to days or weeks but not a year. And I'm not just referring to Remington. Like I said in my post you can go that route and get lucky on the receiver. But I didn't and won't on whole cheap Remington or Savage rifles. Been there and done that. The better argument is there are now better actions based on the M700. So, why buy a stock Remington receiver like I did? But if I had to do it all over again I wouldn't change a thing because it worked. If it didn't I wouldn't have posted a source for them along with my experience with one. Your suggestion to buy a $550 rifle and go through all the trouble of replacing everything just for the receiver only to find out it isn't true is throwing the dice and losing. But if your happy with a 1 moa rifle than knock yourself out, lol. This is a long distance forum. Go be poor somewhere else, lol. For Savage I also got my actions from NSS. There is a reason these sort of vendors stay in business with good reputations.

So you wrote up a long winded (and slightly confusing as to which side your defending) post about the action you bought being more true than purchasing a whole gun cheaper (with the option of selling the barrel and stock of to recoup money)? Got it. My suggestion was that it can be had cheaper than the place you bought from, but that point apparently went completely over your head. And that is me being poor, just right here, not somewhere else. and FWIW, I'd put my discount Ruger up against your high dollar Savage or that fancy Remington ya got.

 

[PBramble]

Oh, and Remington related topic deserves Remington talk. I'm a fan of the new A1 and look forward to getting my hands on one. I'm such a fan of Remington 700s that I have amassed quite a few of them in various calibers over the years. I avoid RR and RAR actions like the plague and so far have been lucky enough to purchase mostly 5, 6 and 7 digit serial number guns.

 

[Culpeper]

Oh, and Remington related topic deserves Remington talk. I'm a fan of the new A1 and look forward to getting my hands on one. I'm such a fan of Remington 700s that I have amassed quite a few of them in various calibers over the years. I avoid RR and RAR actions like the plague and so far have been lucky enough to purchase mostly 5, 6 and 7 digit serial number guns.

So, why are you recommending them to me as cheap complete rifles to tear down for the action, lol.

 

[PBramble]

So, why are you recommending them to me as cheap complete rifles to tear down for the action, lol.

Cause you get the action and sellable parts for less money. then sell the parts and recoup more money.

 

[Culpeper]

The life expectancy for a Remington 700
"The life expectancy of a Remington 700 is in days, weeks, maybe a season it won't last a year." ... I bought a Rem 700 LTR in 308 total factory, put 8000 rds through the factory barrel, rebarreled it, trued tbe action another 8000 rd, rebarreled again, I have around 22,000 high pressure match loads on that Remington 700 action. And many other Remington 700 actions with over 10,000 rds, have been rebarreled, but no action has failed. Also using a trued Remington 700 and stock Ruger test rifle for 80,000 psi hybrid cases In 308 Win and 6.5 Creedmoor ... and thats just me. What about all those Rem 700s used by military snipers by the thousands, since the Vietnam War, and all the trued factory actions and some not, that won matches before all the aftermarket actions were even conceived. Mike Walker, brought the 700 to bench rest with his new 222 Rem cartridge and the Rem 700 action and shot tiny groups, the 40X in several configurations and calibers, available from Remington, the action was the same as the production action, with the bottom ground for good bedding, and a non hammer forged barrel.
Most of mine are older, and they have been good rifle actions...I have not handled a new 700, and most of mine are 20 plus yrs old, and were good rifles with no failures and lasted a lifetime in most cases with heavy use.
Your claims of lasting a week, etc seem overly exaggerated, to the point of disdain and snobbish toward anyone who does not have your taste for expensive custom actions, which are nice but not even necessary, like a good barrel.
I am grateful that common gun companies, Remington, Ruger, Savage etc offer products of usually decient quality, at a reasonable price, for "poor" folks to enjoy shooting sports, and add more value, and necessary protection, to their lives...you must be, and are commanded to armed, high dollar is not in the command,... but possession is.
"He who hath not a sword, let him sell his garments, to obtain one."

You quoted me out of context. You know I posted measured in seasons, that total up to days or weeks in the field. And I was referring to those cheap discount store hunting appliance rifles. Many of us have good 308 rifles that we have shot thousands of rounds through. That is nothing on these older M700s set up for that. But thanks for the amazing story, history lesson, and theology. You're one of a kind, lol. Read the whole thread so we can fix stupid.

 

[Culpeper]

Cause you get the action and sellable parts for less money. then sell the parts and recoup more money.

But you yourself won't touch an RR or RAR one.

 

[PBramble]

But you yourself won't touch an RR or RAR one.

those seem to be the most problematic years for poor QC, so it's a personal choice. Besides, I'm a poor. I buy mine off old farmers.

 

[xsn10s]

My buddy's pre bankruptcy 700 LR. It had a gnarly burr on the bolt rail. With some filing on the burr and minimal load workup he shot this group. I prefer earlier Remingtons but I'd have no problem owning this rifle.

 

[Culpeper]

those seem to be the most problematic years for poor QC, so it's a personal choice. Besides, I'm a poor. I buy mine off old farmers.

Those are the better M700 actions as you know

 

[xsn10s]

I bought the hogue/tactical/16" threaded 308 model for just under $700.

You got me thinking on what kind of COL that could be squeezed out of this new action. If left in a BDL configuration and a Wyatts box of some variety was installed with the new bolt stop. Might be able to run 284 Win seated way out. The new ramp extends forward and the Wyatt boxes with some receiver work extend to the rear. Hmmmmmm.