New Member -- Advice/Experience Wanted!

[Alibiiv]

Not to hijack but there might be other Ruger fans out there. http://forum.accurateshooter.com/th...ice-for-rebarreling-or-modifications.3793638/

Thank you for this thread. I will be contacting them a few of the smiths listed in the post. Cannot thank you enough.

 

[Brydawg512]

Spend wisely and it only hurts once.

Very true!

 

[Brydawg512]

So, let me ask a question here so I have a better understanding. At this point, I am considering going with an MOA reticle/scope. If I sight the rifle in to be dead on at 200 yards, but have to adjust the turrets to take a 450 yard shot in the field, is it easy to revert back to a 200 yard sight in? Is it just a matter of returning the turret knobs back to their original orientation? Still trying to figure out how you determine what needs to be adjusted and how much it needs to be adjusted based on what shot you are taking? Thanks in advance. I appreciate everyones help.

 

[xsn10s]

That all depends on the quality of your scope and knobs. If they are good then you just dial back to your 200 yard setting. With a MOA or Mildot based reticle you wouldn't have to use your knobs. Here's a link to a ballistics calculator. You just plug in your numbers and it will give you a "guide" to your trajectory. It may help you with figuring this all out.
http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmtraj-5.1.cgi

 

[Brydawg512]

That all depends on the quality of your scope and knobs. If they are good then you just dial back to your 200 yard setting. With a MOA or Mildot based reticle you wouldn't have to use your knobs. Here's a link to a ballistics calculator. You just plug in your numbers and it will give you a "guide" to your trajectory. It may help you with figuring this all out.
http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmtraj-5.1.cgi

Ok, that makes sense. So, after taking into consideration the advice I have received, I have decided that the Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50 is realistically what I need for my intended purposes. I currently see a PST 4-16x50 EBR-1 online for $899 compared to a MRAD version for $599. However, I am wondering what adjustment (MOA or MRAD) would make the most sense? I see online that the MRAD scope is cheaper than the MOA version, but unclear why this is the case.

 

[WildRose]

So, let me ask a question here so I have a better understanding. At this point, I am considering going with an MOA reticle/scope. If I sight the rifle in to be dead on at 200 yards, but have to adjust the turrets to take a 450 yard shot in the field, is it easy to revert back to a 200 yard sight in? Is it just a matter of returning the turret knobs back to their original orientation? Still trying to figure out how you determine what needs to be adjusted and how much it needs to be adjusted based on what shot you are taking? Thanks in advance. I appreciate everyones help.

Yep, that's exactly how it works.

With a little practice you can learn to simply adjust your holdover inside of about 450yds and still be quite accurate but beyond that dialing in your drops gets more and more important as the range increases.

The 7RM is a fairly flat shooter so if you sight in and set it up for a 300yds zero just using +/- holdover to 450 is pretty easy and doesn't take a great deal of practice.

You'll really like the TMOA reticle on the Leupolds if an MOA reticle is what you are used to.

As for going back to your original zero, yes, it's quite easy as the dial is calibrated in MOA starting at 0.

 

[WildRose]

Ok, that makes sense. So, after taking into consideration the advice I have received, I have decided that the Vortex Viper PST 4-16x50 is realistically what I need for my intended purposes. I currently see a PST 4-16x50 EBR-1 online for $899 compared to a MRAD version for $599. However, I am wondering what adjustment (MOA or MRAD) would make the most sense? I see online that the MRAD scope is cheaper than the MOA version, but unclear why this is the case.

Stick to the MOA version it'll simplify your life quite a bit.

 

[xsn10s]

Sorry I couldn't tell you why as I haven't owned a Vortex. Either MOA or MIL will serve you fine. I think for hunting big game a mil based reticle will be less cluttered. But for varmints a MOA would be my choice for finer increments.

 

[Brydawg512]

Yep, that's exactly how it works.

With a little practice you can learn to simply adjust your holdover inside of about 450yds and still be quite accurate but beyond that dialing in your drops gets more and more important as the range increases.

The 7RM is a fairly flat shooter so if you sight in and set it up for a 300yds zero just using +/- holdover to 450 is pretty easy and doesn't take a great deal of practice.

You'll really like the TMOA reticle on the Leupolds if an MOA reticle is what you are used to.

As for going back to your original zero, yes, it's quite easy as the dial is calibrated in MOA starting at 0.

Sorry I couldn't tell you why as I haven't owned a Vortex. Either MOA or MIL will serve you fine. I think for hunting big game a mil based reticle will be less cluttered. But for varmints a MOA would be my choice for finer increments.

Well, I have a pretty good deal on a Viper PST 4-16x50 EBR-1 in MRAD right now from Cabelas. They said they may be out of the MRAD, so if they have the same scope in MOA I may pull the trigger for $499 compared to its normal $699.

 

[xsn10s]

I think SWFA.com has Black Friday sales coming up also.

 

[WildRose]

Well, I have a pretty good deal on a Viper PST 4-16x50 EBR-1 in MRAD right now from Cabelas. They said they may be out of the MRAD, so if they have the same scope in MOA I may pull the trigger for $499 compared to its normal $699.

Mil Dot is simpler, MOA is more precise. Personally I really like both the TMOA and B&C from Leupold for different reasons.

My favorite reticle period is the MP-8 From IOR Valdada but apparently it's proprietary and nobody else produces one similar.

Since you're starting out I'd say start with the MOA version as in the US pretty much everybody works in MOA, it will just keep things simpler for you and you won't have to do any conversions in the field.

We never talked about what stock is on your rifle I don't think. Is it a factory tupperware? Bell and Carlson, H-S precision or something else?

 

[WildRose]

I think SWFA.com has Black Friday sales coming up also.

PRetty much everyone is going to be running sales from now until tax day.

 

[xsn10s]

There's also a used SWFA 3x9 MIL/MIL HD in the optics classifieds for sale.

 

[Brydawg512]

Ok, yes it was my understanding that MOA may be simpler for me to start with. Guess I may need to see who has the best price around.