What kind of velocity are you getting with that?I just use a .223 Rem. 68gr Hornady BTHP loaded over CFE223. Gets to 600 yards pretty easy. It'll teach you to call wind that's for sure.
What kind of velocity are you getting with that?I just use a .223 Rem. 68gr Hornady BTHP loaded over CFE223. Gets to 600 yards pretty easy. It'll teach you to call wind that's for sure.
Right about 2910 out of a 16" barrel. It's toward the upper end of published data.What kind of velocity are you getting with that?
My go to gun M-77 220 swift. I think mine has a 24" barrel. It's a tack driver.Efficient prob can't look much futher than 223 with 22.250/22 creed being a decent 2nd for components (hornady will always support there stuff) 223 made the standard by the government, so it has zero wow (gov can't make anything cool) factor for me. If I want to shoot paper and targets cheap 223 or 308.
Personally 22.250 is my standard 22 caliber in the house, with some other cool ones have to be 220 swift (no ones mentioning that have we all gone new generation?) Not digging just curious, I love the swift.
224 weatherby - that's one you wont find much, but it's a fire cracker.
22 hornet it's just too cool to die!
I guess everyone wants to shoot heavies or ar's - give me a fine bolt gun or a single action ruger 1 and i'll just stick with nostalgia! Interesting read of opinions, my favorites prob do not fit the efficient criteria of the OP, but I have enough loaded ammo for them to last my lifetime, my kids will need to start saving components and ammo when i'm done with them!
I don't have bottomless pockets, so I have only one .22CF and it's a .223 with a 1:12 twist. Ruger built it, and with no upgrades other than a Timney trigger it shoots just under 1/2 moa. I'm confident that with meticulous cartridge prep and finding the right bullet-powder combo it should certainly do 1/4 moa. I'm in the process of ladder building right now with a variety of powders and bullets.
Even if I did have a ton of money and could afford to have a super-duper $2000 to $3000 custom rifle built, I would stick with the .223 strictly because of component availability.
Your observations of 53 grain Vmax bullets is just the opposite of mine. I shoot them out of 8 twist 22-250's and 8 twist 220 Swifts and have never had a one go puff in thin air at 50 yards! And I have cranked them above the 3650-3700 FPS threshold you indicated it has been happening to you. The only "puffs" that I have observed with the 8 twist 22-250's and Swifts (four different rifles with Mike Rock, two Brux and Douglas barrels) have been threefold. 1. When shooting at paper they puffed in the berm. 2. When shooting at prairie dogs or gophers they went puff when I missed the target. 3. When I hit the priaire dog of gopher, they puffed in the critter when they blew the snot out of them.
From what I have observed in many many years of using the 53 Vmaxes, I have to wonder if you got a bad batch of bullets?? But then, maybe I have been lucky and others have had the same experience as you.
Now I'm curious as well!Your observations of 53 grain Vmax bullets is just the opposite of mine. I shoot them out of 8 twist 22-250's and 8 twist 220 Swifts and have never had a one go puff in thin air at 50 yards! And I have cranked them above the 3650-3700 FPS threshold you indicated it has been happening to you. The only "puffs" that I have observed with the 8 twist 22-250's and Swifts (four different rifles with Mike Rock, two Brux and Douglas barrels) have been threefold. 1. When shooting at paper they puffed in the berm. 2. When shooting at prairie dogs or gophers they went puff when I missed the target. 3. When I hit the priaire dog of gopher, they puffed in the critter when they blew the snot out of them.
From what I have observed in many many years of using the 53 Vmaxes, I have to wonder if you got a bad batch of bullets?? But then, maybe I have been lucky and others have had the same experience as you.
Yes the 220 Swift is a powder burn, but 55gr @ 3900+ really kicts the rifle into gear.Define long range, compared to a 22LR the 22 hornet is a long range round, 12 grs of a number of different powders will give you 3000 to 3200 fps with 34 to 40 gr bullets, compared to a 220 swift which can burn 40 or more grs per pop, in practical terms a 223 makes a lot of sense,