I've read and seen a fair amount of kills with the 88's, but I haven't personally yet. Maybe this winter when I visit the South? I have so many of the 80's in both AMAX and ELD and some very accurate loads I trust, I just haven't put the 88's to the test.
Meanwhile on RS they're killin bear, deer, elk , and moose with .223 and 77gr TMK.
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You're correct……I once did a research paper on common characteristics between apples and oranges! The shortest research paper I ever wrote!
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I'm not afraid. I just don't understand what you are hoping or expecting so see with this comparison.
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Gonna try them on some pigs down there?
Both hogs and deer....Hopefully. The deer season there goes into mid January.
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Do you know approximately how many fps they are traveling at the muzzle?
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I've been lusting after a bolt action .223. But I might switch that to a 22-250 1-7" twist. I think I figured out a way to make SRP 22-250 cases. And an X Die will keep me from having to trim cases.
I am pushing the 80's in the 22-250AI at 3,400fps in a 26" barrel using 7828SSC, and the 88's in the 3,300fps range with same powder. Both can be driven faster, but the groups were not as tight. Very acceptable for deer/hog, but just not the tightest.
I'd be interested in how to make SRP 22-250 brass.
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Out of 308 win brass. Apparently many have been doing that for a long time. The easy button would be to just do a 22 creedmoor. But I want the smaller capacity. I think it would be a good blend of performance and cheap to reload.
That's a lot of necking down.
I also have a 220 Swift that I thought about rechambering to 220 Swift AI and putting a fast twist barrel on it. The factory barrel shoots to good to mess with plus it's the old 14 twist so 50-55 grains is max for it.
Thank you for the sitrep in the article, yeah... I wouldn't doubt it, the 5.56x45mm under the right circumstances punches way above its weight on flesh, I kind of wish they would've stated the cartridge bullet and weight, I'm betting it was a 5.56x45mm M193 55gr ball.About the author of that piece.
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