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Let’s see those Smokeless builds!!
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Deputy819
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"Just a Savage..?" Come on, bro….Savages ROCK!!! That nice buck (and many others I'm sure) can attest to that.
6.5x300 WBY
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Need more hunt info. Cant let you get away with just a picture. Bullet used? Velocity? Powder? How much? How Far was your shot?
Com. On man. It's off season we need something to keep us going.
Ninering62
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Here's my .40 Omega SML
Brux barrel, Boyd's stock, Trijicon scope, DNZ mount.
It was built by Woodman Arms
The second gun is another Omega build that's mocked up before it got shipped off to Woodman Arms.
It's a sub cal SML with a Douglas barrel
Brux barrel, Boyd's stock, Trijicon scope, DNZ mount.
It was built by Woodman Arms
The second gun is another Omega build that's mocked up before it got shipped off to Woodman Arms.
It's a sub cal SML with a Douglas barrel
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Sealesniper
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Ok, I will give a little more info.
Illinois lease. We drive up from NC and hunt hard for 2 or 3 days. In an hour and a half before first light, and sit all day, regardless of wind, rain or cold. On this day, it was COLD. High was 12, and wind was gusting to 37 mph, quartering on my left cheek. I had seen several small bucks and does in the morning, and then it went dead from 11 am through 2:30. Shortly after 2:30 a MONSTER mainframe 10 pt came out down at the bottom of Home Timber and was struggling to walk/step. I would see his front right shoulder was busted and his whole right side was covered in dirt/dried/wet blood. He was at 347 yards, and I was 12 feet in a ladder stand. As he slowly and painfully moved from my left to my right, I realized he was 8 feet from my other stand. When he got to the base of my bottom alpha field stand, he laid down right at the base of the ladder and flopped over on his left side. At that range, and in that wind, there was no way I could make an ethical shot, and if I got down out of my stand to move closer, I would bust the remaining of my hunt as I would have had to skirt right along the top of Home Timber to get close enough and not be in view. Being the deer was down and how cold it was, I figured he would not get up, but it killed me to see this magnificent animal suffer.
He laid there for an hour plus, then he lifted his head, struggled to his feet (I put crosshairs on him, but he was facing away) and stepped beside the ladder. That stand is on the edge of a "crick" and from bank to the bottom is about 11 feet. He took one more hobble and I watched him collapse and tumble into the crick and out of sight.
By now the wind had picked up velocity and the snow was coming down again. Did I say it was COLD? All my hunting buddies who live in Illinois had given up and gone home, only my NC buddy and I stayed in the stands, but he was on another property. At 4:30, at under 100 yards, the buck in this picture stepped out of Home Timber (I would have busted him had I gotten down) and worked down the drainage from my left towards me a 45 degree angle. Wind was still howling and it was hard to hold crosshairs on him, and I realized just how cold I was as I slipped my right glove off. I was excited yes, but I can manage that. I was shivering from the cold and I had almost no feeling in my right hand. Buck continued to feed angling towards me in the alpha drainage. I blew warm breath on my right fist and moved my finger to the trigger. Was really uneventful after that. Waited for a slight drop in the gusts and for him to be broadside and bang, dead right there. I was frozen to the metal seat of the stand, so I had to work to get free, as the snow had meted and frozen the steel to my bibs.
I reloaded the ML, check on my buck, and then slowly walked down to the bottom stand. I had one more tag, and planned to put it on the big 10 in the crick. As I slowly came to the top of the bank, all I saw was water, ice and mud. The big deer was gone. He could not have gone to the right, as I would have seen him as the crick flows through the main part of that pasture and is pretty open. He must have gone upstream and that would take him off property. I went as far as I could and never saw any sign of him.
As for my gun and load.
Started as a .308 Savage 10. Mounted Arrowhead barrel and brake. Built the bolt, but did nothing to stock as it was not touching past recoil lug. 60 grains of 4198 with Mag primer and 275 grain swaged bullet. Runs 2625 fps with this charge. I have increased powder but accuracy suffered. This really is a one hole gun at 100 yards. I have a drop chart to 800 yards on paper, but since my furthest possible shot with land variances and undulations on the leases is 530 yards, I only have it charted to 540.
Illinois lease. We drive up from NC and hunt hard for 2 or 3 days. In an hour and a half before first light, and sit all day, regardless of wind, rain or cold. On this day, it was COLD. High was 12, and wind was gusting to 37 mph, quartering on my left cheek. I had seen several small bucks and does in the morning, and then it went dead from 11 am through 2:30. Shortly after 2:30 a MONSTER mainframe 10 pt came out down at the bottom of Home Timber and was struggling to walk/step. I would see his front right shoulder was busted and his whole right side was covered in dirt/dried/wet blood. He was at 347 yards, and I was 12 feet in a ladder stand. As he slowly and painfully moved from my left to my right, I realized he was 8 feet from my other stand. When he got to the base of my bottom alpha field stand, he laid down right at the base of the ladder and flopped over on his left side. At that range, and in that wind, there was no way I could make an ethical shot, and if I got down out of my stand to move closer, I would bust the remaining of my hunt as I would have had to skirt right along the top of Home Timber to get close enough and not be in view. Being the deer was down and how cold it was, I figured he would not get up, but it killed me to see this magnificent animal suffer.
He laid there for an hour plus, then he lifted his head, struggled to his feet (I put crosshairs on him, but he was facing away) and stepped beside the ladder. That stand is on the edge of a "crick" and from bank to the bottom is about 11 feet. He took one more hobble and I watched him collapse and tumble into the crick and out of sight.
By now the wind had picked up velocity and the snow was coming down again. Did I say it was COLD? All my hunting buddies who live in Illinois had given up and gone home, only my NC buddy and I stayed in the stands, but he was on another property. At 4:30, at under 100 yards, the buck in this picture stepped out of Home Timber (I would have busted him had I gotten down) and worked down the drainage from my left towards me a 45 degree angle. Wind was still howling and it was hard to hold crosshairs on him, and I realized just how cold I was as I slipped my right glove off. I was excited yes, but I can manage that. I was shivering from the cold and I had almost no feeling in my right hand. Buck continued to feed angling towards me in the alpha drainage. I blew warm breath on my right fist and moved my finger to the trigger. Was really uneventful after that. Waited for a slight drop in the gusts and for him to be broadside and bang, dead right there. I was frozen to the metal seat of the stand, so I had to work to get free, as the snow had meted and frozen the steel to my bibs.
I reloaded the ML, check on my buck, and then slowly walked down to the bottom stand. I had one more tag, and planned to put it on the big 10 in the crick. As I slowly came to the top of the bank, all I saw was water, ice and mud. The big deer was gone. He could not have gone to the right, as I would have seen him as the crick flows through the main part of that pasture and is pretty open. He must have gone upstream and that would take him off property. I went as far as I could and never saw any sign of him.
As for my gun and load.
Started as a .308 Savage 10. Mounted Arrowhead barrel and brake. Built the bolt, but did nothing to stock as it was not touching past recoil lug. 60 grains of 4198 with Mag primer and 275 grain swaged bullet. Runs 2625 fps with this charge. I have increased powder but accuracy suffered. This really is a one hole gun at 100 yards. I have a drop chart to 800 yards on paper, but since my furthest possible shot with land variances and undulations on the leases is 530 yards, I only have it charted to 540.
6.5x300 WBY
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Now thank you for this. That was a fantastic hunt. What an experience. Can't wait for season to roll by.
6.5x300 WBY
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That's awesome. What are your loads and how is it grouping.
Ninering62
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Thanks,
I'm testing several diff bullets in it with a few diff powders.
I don't give specifics of my loads or load development in any open forums. Ppl need to learn how to do their own just like I did.
It's not difficult to push 195g-225g bullets to 3000fps or more.
Accuracy has been decent with most of the bullets I'm testing, considering I'm not full forming any of my bullets.
I have had some keyholing with a cpl bullets due to obturation issues. I've worked thru them though.
I've got a bunch of light 10mm bullets from 150-180g that I'm going to test with shortly for something cheaper to shoot at 100-200yds.
6.5x300 WBY
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Totally get that about load data. But I can recommend 10x. It's my absolute favorite powder in my 45XML. 303 pittman aeromax at 3100 fps. It's a hammer.
Glad you are liking yours and having fun
Very nice! Cool and different. What's the action?
Ninering62
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I just got this back 3hrs ago.
It's my 2019 Paramount with a .45 Lilja hand lapped #17 barrel on it.
The one-off prototype tuner brake & the SJC Titan Big Bore brake the builder designed & made both, as well as the thread protector & the load thru funnel.
It has an ASG Paramount upgrade kit BP & Bolt nose & brass LRP modules in it.
He inletted & bedded the stock for this 1.250x5" shank barrel.
It's my 2019 Paramount with a .45 Lilja hand lapped #17 barrel on it.
The one-off prototype tuner brake & the SJC Titan Big Bore brake the builder designed & made both, as well as the thread protector & the load thru funnel.
It has an ASG Paramount upgrade kit BP & Bolt nose & brass LRP modules in it.
He inletted & bedded the stock for this 1.250x5" shank barrel.
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6.5x300 WBY
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Need full report including pictures of groups velocities and recipes. Bullets you are trying etc. Looking to hearing how she shoots. Your rifle looks amazing. Congrats
Ninering62
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Thank you for the compliment.
I have no prob posting groups, bullets, velocity, but that's where I stop.
Here is the first test group shot out of this barrel that the builder shot, with the side port brake on it.
Target was 100yds, bullets were Northern Precision 270g PinPoints.
Velocity was 2700fps.
I'd say that's about one hellova good starting group isn't it.
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Dr. Mac
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Really? I've seen superior accuracy in these modern in-lines but the calculated muzzle energy seems incredible. Your numbers calculate out to 4943 ft.lbs of energy. The 416 Rigby elephant gun with a 400gr bullet @ 2400 fps makes 5116 ft.lbs. Are you using BH209, or smokeless powder? Sounds pretty optimistic, but...
