Let’s see those Smokeless builds!!

[brian11]

You'd also need to have it bored & tapped internally for the breech plug to screw into. And typically, that's where your headspacing is going to come from.

Hmm, seems the barrel HAS to be threaded internally on the action end for a breech plug?
So, you can't just buy a blank Brux 45 cal. barrel and have it threaded for an action?

 

[muleystalker]

Here's my smokeless built by arrowhead.

Nice Stick! I love the Manners stock and I am kinda digging the way you carried the camo pattern onto the barrel and action. Manners are ny favorite stock, I have way too many.lol

 

[brian11]

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Those were a couple fine-looking bucks, but just for pure photography, this is a really nice picture.

 

[buggz]

If anyone wants any more details on any of it, just let me know.

Wow! That sir, is incredible!
Unfortunately, I don't have the space, nor tooling to even try a super feeble attempt of any of those operations.

I was hoping to find a 45 cal Brux tbarrel hat has the breech plug chamber cut.
But there are many differing breech plugs, sigh...
Then find a place to spin it up for a Zermatt TL3 action.

 

[muleystalker]

The rifle was finished on Wednesday on the first week of our muzzle loader season (only two weeks in NC), Load development was literally those first five shots. It was 2875 with 71 grains of H4198 (I normaly shoot 73 or 74 at mid 2900's) with a Parker 275 E-Max. The barrel is 24" long, 20 twist. It's a Brux barrel carbon wrapped at Hells Canyon. The NightForce was on it until the Vortex Razor LHT arrived so I didn't weigh it with scopes. The recoil is not what you think, the lighter rifle doesn't seem to drive into your shoulder as hard as the heavies, but it does seem to have more muzzle lift.

Thanks for that reply, it helps out a lot.

 

[muleystalker]

This has turned into a REALLY GREAT thread, guys! Keep it going! As indicated in my #158 I sold the Hankins conversion (and all components) to @Outcast2.0 and he should be picking the rifle up from his FFL this week. Seeing all these awesome bolt-gun front stuffers was just too much for me (Thanks Fellas )…….so I've got one being put together and will put some pics up when it's all said and done. I went with:
- Hank's #17 contour .45 cal 26" Brux prefit w/4-port muzzle brake and precision barrel-nut
- Remington 700 L/A w/ custom bolt-knob
- Holland recoil lug
- HS Precision PST 036 stock
- Remington trigger tuned to a very crisp 2 lbs.
- Warne steel rail & rings
- Matthew's Fabrication Kydex cheek riser (thin blue line American flag)
- Trijicon Ten Mile 'HX' 6-24 X 50 scope

The plan is to continue shooting 275gr Fury Star Tip MZ's as fast as I safely can using IMR 4198.

We shall see…

Im not far behind you, I trying to get all my specs figured out so I can call at the end of the week and get it started.

 

[BenelliHunter]

If I ever get rid of mine, I think I'll do a titanium action and carbon barrel.....maybe drop down to a much lighter bullet to curtail the recoil of a lighter build.

If you get rid of yours let me know. 2 boys means I'll be needing 3!!!

 

[BenelliHunter]

Those all look so intriguing, but what about the recoil? It seems the recoil would be considerable when pushing a 300 plus grain projectile at 3000 FPS. Just saying.

I really don't notice the recoil on mine. It has a good brake also.

 

[OH58DViper]

I'm surprised the smoke pole Mike Davis showed is still for sale and one of you guys haven't snagged it up. That thing is haunting my dreams. I may have to sell mine so I can buy it. It just sucks when you build something from scratch and it takes all year with the wait times and such, only to find something you like more once it's done ha. If I wasn't knee deep in center fire builds it would already be on its way to Kansas.

 

[Rick Richard]

I'm surprised the smoke pole Mike Davis showed is still for sale and one of you guys haven't snagged it up. That thing is haunting my dreams. I may have to sell mine so I can buy it. It just sucks when you build something from scratch and it takes all year with the wait times and such, only to find something you like more once it's done ha. If I wasn't knee deep in center fire builds it would already be on its way to Kansas.

Did not know it was for sale?

 

[Rick Richard]

This is our new carbon fiber, lightweight smokeless 45 caliber muzzle loader:

Mesa Summit action, Hells Canyon "Muzzy" barrel, Mesa Altitude stock, TriggerTech Special trigger, stock Cerakote in Kuiu Verde 2.0

Davis Custom Rifle & Machine, LLC
www.daviscustomrifle.com

Is this for sale?

 

[brian11]

I was hoping to find a 45 cal Brux tbarrel hat has the breech plug chamber cut.
But there are many differing breech plugs, sigh...
Then find a place to spin it up for a Zermatt TL3 action.

Any gunsmith or qualified machinist can cut the chamber for the breech plug. But it does have to be matched to the bolt and receiver, so I don't think it can be a "plug and play" that you can just buy and screw on.
I don't know a lot about the new "pre-fit" barrels receivers - you'd still have to set the headspace by the depth of the breech plug, and I don't know if any of those makers will/can do that.
And, as you mentioned, there are several breech plug options, so you have to pick which one you want to use.
A good plug and play option is the Pro Hunter barrel. $1600 sounds like a lot, but if you're making a bolt gun SML, it's several thousand for a custom made one. Even to do it yourself, it's about $1000 for the receiver, several hundred for the barrel, and hundreds more for all the other parts - brake, trigger, stock, etc

 

[muleystalker]

If you go to his instagram he states the weight at 7.75lbs unscoped. Add 4oz for rings and optic of your choice for weight scoped. I read he shot it 5 times to zero and the target pictured was shot by him and another shooter just verifying zero with rounds 4&5. I'm sure speed is commensurate with every other 26-28" barrel 3050-3100 fps with 325 @ 105gr if H4895. I can't imagine wanting to shoot a 350 out of a sub 10lb rifle. I'm yoked and played college football and wouldn't want to deal with that ha.

The weight for the HCA is on ASG's site where they are in stock and it's listed at 3.85lbs. I wish I didn't have two irons in the fire right now, I'd buy this in a heartbeat. I PM'd him about buying one in the future. That mesa action with the slotted bolt to aid in loading the modules is a slick feature!

OH58DViper I don't have instagram Im and oldtimer, LOL. Thanks for the info though it does help me out. I'm getting real close to finalizing my build.

Thanks again,
Dave

 

[Deputy819]

I don't know a lot bout the new "pre-fit" barrels receivers - you'd still have to set the hedspace by the depth of the breech plug, and I don't know if any of those makers will/can do that.

Even to do it yourself, it's about $1000 for the receiver, several hundred for the barrel, and hundreds more for all the other parts - brake, trigger, stock, etc

Here's a parts 'price list' of what I just did for a barrel-nut gun:

1) Rem 700 L/A $443.89
2) HS Precision PST 036 $374.25
3) Holland Recoil Lug $47.99
4) BDL bottom metal, etc $195.00
5) Hankins Brux pre-fit w/brake $890.00
6) Warne steel rail $94.62
7) Warne steel rings $55.99
8) Atlas BT17 Pic Rail $39.90
9) Kydex cheek rest $60.00

**Does not include taxes/shipping**