Labradar LX - I guess they have an answer for the Garmin Zero. Maybe?

[quigley257]

I don't foresee Xeros being fire saled any time soon. They are a long overdue answer to the poor customer service and hassle of the LR.

 

[FireFlyFishing]

Just a JOKE! that I put for sale ^^^^

Try finding anything on the Labradar LX from "Labradar" or on the internet except from Snipers Hide or LRH Forums.
Labradar does not list it as a new product and no News Releases for a new Product.

If Labradar does come out with this LX, I can see the Garmin Xero crowd selling theirs fast at 1/2 the cost just like the LR units went for when the XERO came out.
Stay TUNED and hold your hats!

I hope you're right. I'll buy the garmin used at half price!

 

[Ucsdryder]

I don't foresee Xeros being fire saled any time soon. They are a long overdue answer to the poor customer service and hassle of the LR.

No. What's missing is the fact that the LR SUCKS! Add a tripod mount, a tripod, a carry case, an alignment sight, and a trigger and it MIGHT work as well as the garmin.

 

[waspocrew]

No. What's missing is the fact that the LR SUCKS! Add a tripod mount, a tripod, a carry case, an alignment sight, and a trigger and it MIGHT work as well as the garmin.

And…. You have an app that never functions correctly. LR really needed some revamping. The Garmin flat out works.

 

[Ucsdryder]

And…. You have an app that never functions correctly. LR really needed some revamping. The Garmin flat out works.

Good point. I never used the app, the down range BC, etc.

Don't forget the garmin works on basically any projectile, including archery, etc. I think I saw somewhere that it worked with a thrown baseball.

 

[Veteran]

Someone was gonna try that by putting the Garmin down range and shooting over it.......but havent heard that it worked.

I dont believe it will work , because
I think your firing point has to register 5 to 15 inches away from the Garmin. I believe it had an algorithm that rejects any object that did not originate within those limits Close to it. This is why it is so successful not erroneously picking up all the other shooters at the range.

But if someone makes it work and doesnt shoot their own Garmin to bits, Id like to hear about it.

I think it was bigbulls
@bigbulls that was gonna experiment shooting over it downrange.....

 

[Mike D Texas]

I think it was bigbulls
@bigbulls that was gonna experiment shooting over it downrange.....

It's already been done by @orkan I believe. I was watching a video he was doing comparing the "big 3" side x side.

It did work.

 

[lilharcher]

LR was so temperamental, especially on my smokeless ML. Garmin works perfect. So glad I sold my LR the exact day the Garmin came out……instantly obsolete. And I have never even thought about looking back. So even if LR came out with something new, I bet 75%+ of people who originally had a LR wouldn't believe it, nor buy it.

 

[Vern396]

I don't have one, but by comparison I would rather have the True Ballistic Chronograph from FX Airguns. At a retail price of $1K it cost more than LR and Xero, but has some beneficial features. Namely, a long life, rechargeable, internal battery. It measures speed from 400-4000 fps and speeds at user programmable distances down range. It calculates the BC for each shot as well as the average BC over a string of shots. As you could discern from the name of the manufacturer, it will measure the speed of projectiles down to BB. Watching reviews online, dimensionally it's larger than the Xero, but smaller than the LR and it appears to be as easy to set up as the Xero.

The feature that most interest me is the ability to calculate the average BC. Perhaps, the Xero or the new LR might add this feature in a future update, but for now the TB is the only one to that has it.

 

[Mike6158]

I've had a LabRadar for a long time. The USB port gave up recently so I switched to using batteries. That actually solved an intermittent problem where it would stop communicating with the app. I also found that if there was another blue tooth signal nearby it would sometimes interfere. I use an iPad for the app and if I left my phone bluetooth on it caused problems. All I care about is MV. Once I added an external trigger I stopped having intermittent problems with the LR missing data. I finally have it working pretty well. I have a Garmin. I haven't used it yet. It's smaller. I like that. It's SD calc is correct. Average velocity is correct.

The Garmin brought to light that the LR was using the wrong calc for SD and that there were rounding errors in the average velocity calc. I made a spreadsheet that's basically a load data card that does all of the calcs for me, for each group, so that doesn't bother me (not true... it bugs the **** out of me otherwise I wouldn't have made the spreadsheet). I print the top portion and write the readings down as I shoot. When I get home I put the numbers in the sheet and transfer the values to my target (the target has places to record the data.

I'm keeping my spreadsheet but will probably take both the LR and Garmin to the range until I feel like I can trust the Garmin. I'm not going to set both of them up. In my work world I've calibrated transmitters in the past. Some sites had two, one for redundancy. When I was an I&E tech we said that one device gave us the answer, two was a discussion (which one is right), and three are an argument. I just need the answer.

 

[orange1948]

You will be suppressed what shooters will do to get the "New Shinny Thing". Look at what happened when the Xero came out.
We still have our LR that works just fine and no issues. We also purchased a Xero because BassPro had a special for $500.
Heck we had a CDE2 for many years even after we got the LR. It was and still is a great chronograph! We Gifted it to a LRH member when we got the Xero. Didn't need three chronos.
One thing I will say about LR is that their customer service if the BEST. I had an issue when i started shooting suppressed and the CS rep from LR gave me his personal cell and told me to call him when I was at the range shooting and having any issues. I did call while i was shooting suppressed, he answered and walked me through the setup. It was a USER ERRO -ME. our two LRs have worked perfect since then.
We can still probably make money or break even selling the Xero unless LR puts this unconfirmed LX on the market. Then I can see the Xeros up for sale. Might want to start selling your Xero now to get the best price before the market drops.

I have owned a LR since the spring of 2015 and am considering buying a second one for my son. I agree, the customer service has been excellent. I haven't had any issues with the unit. My inquiries to LR were related to my "technically challenged" handicap. The learning curve of this 76 year old seems to be transitioning into a "learning obstruction". Lol.
It is good to see the success of the Garmin. The competition in this technology is good for us, the users.

 

[BachelorJack]

I have owned a LR since the spring of 2015 and am considering buying a second one for my son.

If you want a deal--let me know. My brother was slow to sell his after the Garmin came out. Now he can't give it away.

It works like every other labradar I've ever seen. No issues.
It drops the connection to your phone randomly--like normal.
Is complicated to get perfectly aimed and remember how to use--like normal.
It easily blows over in a strong gusting wind--like normal.
It's phone app is glitch and crude--like normal.
It's screen is pretty worthless and makes it hard to see your data at a glance--like normal.
And it requires an external battery pack, a cable for the battery pack, a tripod, a pile of 8 or so fresh AA batteries if you somehow forgot the battery pack or cable even if it had new batteries left in it from last time--like normal.


So if you want another to give to your son. Holler at me. Hopefully he never finds out what a Garmin chrono is or how it works. Maybe he doesn't have YouTube and lives in a commune...

 

[BHP9]

I got on LR's mailing list when they were first announced, the estimated price was $575. About 2 months later the price changed to $575 USD. I won't deal with a Canadian company that works in USD that's just a money grab IMO.

IIRC it was about 2 years later when it was finally released. Within 3 months of sales the issues started to come out, plus the excuses from the company.

A friend bought 3 of then and was chronoman at a major pistol match. One died, then a second died and finally the third died - all died within a 2 hour period. AFAIK he had them repaired and got rid of them.

I have a PACT Professional and 3 Shooting Chrony's and they all work.

Screw you LR, the company can die anytime for me.

 

[Veteran]

It's already been done by @orkan I believe. I was watching a video he was doing comparing the "big 3" side x side.

It did work.

Mike If you have the link to the video, please post. I'd like to see it.