^thisThis is crazy talk to me. I have 5-6 NX8 4-32's and the low light is excellent. Surprisingly excellent. Just a tad behind my Swaro Z6i's. I've compared the NX8 to my S&B Ultra Bright, Kahles, etc and it's very close in low light. Absolutely no tunneling and doesn't have a narrow FOV.
Did you purchase right after the initial release or awhile later?This is crazy talk to me. I have 5-6 NX8 4-32's and the low light is excellent. Surprisingly excellent. Just a tad behind my Swaro Z6i's. I've compared the NX8 to my S&B Ultra Bright, Kahles, etc and it's very close in low light. Absolutely no tunneling and doesn't have a narrow FOV.
Not saying I don't believe you, but I haven't experienced any of this with any of mine.
I can see how someone would think the eye box is a little tight, but taking off the Tennebrex cover fixes that.
We like our 4-32 models but haven't had any of the initial ones to compare against. Also really like the ATACR's but the NX8 does shave some oz's if you're looking to cut weight.Did you purchase right after the initial release or awhile later?
It sounds like either NF had a problem with the initial production run, OR heard all the complaints and fixed something in the design/production.
Right after the initial release, I checked out a few of the 2.5-20 versions and they were shockingly awful. I'm interested in giving a 4-32 a try, but when you can pick up a used 4-16 ATACR for $1800 I've gone the ATACR route in the past.
Did you purchase right after the initial release or awhile later?
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I agree the 2.5-20 should be discontinued.Right after the initial release, I checked out a few of the 2.5-20 versions and they were shockingly awful. I'm interested in giving a 4-32 a try, but when you can pick up a used 4-16 ATACR for $1800 I've gone the ATACR route in the past.
And replace it with nx5 4-20I agree the 2.5-20 should be discontinued.
Now that would do it for me, everyone is different but there's no way around the optical issues of the short tube with an 8x erector. I spent days shooting long range targets, and lots of evenings glassing bucks at various ranges with my NX8, mk5, and AMG side by side.And replace it with nx5 4-20
and with pull up or locking elevation turret
and useable at low power & floating dot reticle
and a bit lighter
and a bit shorter
I have ounce counting spreadsheets like most guys, but the 4-16 ATACR is 1.4oz heavier than the NX8. Now compared to the 5-25 or 7-35, the NX8 has some real weight savings.We like our 4-32 models but haven't had any of the initial ones to compare against. Also really like the ATACR's but the NX8 does shave some oz's if you're looking to cut weight.
In concept, I'm right there with you. It's too bad NF can't use the zero lock turrets on other scopes. I also much prefer the mil-c in the 4-16 over the mil-c in the NX8 line or other ATACRs.And replace it with nx5 4-20
and with pull up or locking elevation turret
and useable at low power & floating dot reticle
When the optic is properly set-up, tunneling basically refers to no increase in FoV when magnification decreases. You'll see an increasing black ring around the edge as you reduce magnification at the bottom end. A ton of scopes tunnel at the very low end. The severity varies.I continue to hear about tunneling issues on various scopes. My understanding this is when you see the internal part of the objective when viewing in low magnification. The only time I have run into this issue is when I creep up to close (too short of optimal eye relief). I may be misunderstanding, but have not run into this issue referenced by some of the posters.
I had the total opposite experience multiple times with my 4-32 NX8, sold it because the low light was so terrible in hunting conditions. I have several scopes that I use for hunting and all of them are Swarovski. They are night and day brighter at first light and last light while hunting than either an ATACR or NX8.This is crazy talk to me. I have 5-6 NX8 4-32's and the low light is excellent. Surprisingly excellent. Just a tad behind my Swaro Z6i's. I've compared the NX8 to my S&B Ultra Bright, Kahles, etc and it's very close in low light. Absolutely no tunneling and doesn't have a narrow FOV.
Not saying I don't believe you, but I haven't experienced any of this with any of mine.
I can see how someone would think the eye box is a little tight, but taking off the Tennebrex cover fixes that.
I would agree. For woods hunting, I'd go with brighter glass.I had the total opposite experience multiple times with my 4-32 NX8, sold it because the low light was so terrible in hunting conditions. I have several scopes that I use for hunting and all of them are Swarovski. They are night and day brighter at first light and last light while hunting than either an ATACR or NX8.
Didn't have any problems otherwise with the NX8 and really liked it, as it does check a lot of boxes. Better glass and turrets than the NXS and a few ounces lighter. Most of my time in the woods is hunting whitetails at first and last light and I was repeatedly having problems with not being able to see through my scope well enough to shoot with the NX8, when my binos, naked eye and rangefinder were all brighter...