Introducing the Absolute Hammer

ButterBean · Jul 2, 2021

QuietTexan said:
I was a bit disappointed to hear that the 180 HH outruns the 178 AH past 500 yards because I was planning on using them in a 300 RUM... so I bought some 180 HHs for the RUM and a new 30-06 to shoot the AHs. Win-win all around.

How far is your effective range ?

QuietTexan · Jul 2, 2021

Further than the joke had apparently

Mike Matteson · Jul 2, 2021

ButterBean said:
The Hammers do not blood shot meat, they do the same thing every time regardless of where or what they hit

ButterBean: We have been down this path once before. I didn't say anything about Hammer bullets this time. I was stating what I know for a fact on bullets, that I have either used or have direct knowledge of the bullets and loading, which I was writing about this time. Most of these bullets were being used long before Hammer ever came along. I did ask for any info on studies that are out or coming out. I've been looking at wound channels from High School, which was in the early 60's going forward. Hammer bullets are fairly new on the market. I started reloading at age 14, which was 1962. I presently don't have rifle that the twist rate that will handle those types of bullets. I am having a rifle being built that will. I will go from there. Hammer bullets look to be good to me, and I like their design. I have Hammer bullets on hand waiting to use. I did used all copper bullets in the early 2000 and didn't like what I came up with in my rifle. I had to reduce the velocity, because of chamber pressure, and never could get them to group of what I wanted, which was about 1/2" or less at 100yd. Not all the people are shooting faster or higher twist barrels. From my understanding of copper bullets you need a faster twist rate barrel. So I am headed down that road. It will be interesting to see the outcome, but for now I will have to wait.

ButterBean · Jul 3, 2021

Mike Matteson said:
ButterBean: We have been down this path once before. I didn't say anything about Hammer bullets this time. I was stating what I know for a fact on bullets, that I have either used or have direct knowledge of the bullets and loading, which I was writing about this time. Most of these bullets were being used long before Hammer ever came along. I did ask for any info on studies that are out or coming out. I've been looking at wound channels from High School, which was in the early 60's going forward. Hammer bullets are fairly new on the market. I started reloading at age 14, which was 1962. I presently don't have rifle that the twist rate that will handle those types of bullets. I am having a rifle being built that will. I will go from there. Hammer bullets look to be good to me, and I like their design. I have Hammer bullets on hand waiting to use. I did used all copper bullets in the early 2000 and didn't like what I came up with in my rifle. I had to reduce the velocity, because of chamber pressure, and never could get them to group of what I wanted, which was about 1/2" or less at 100yd. Not all the people are shooting faster or higher twist barrels. From my understanding of copper bullets you need a faster twist rate barrel. So I am headed down that road. It will be interesting to see the outcome, but for now I will have to wait.

You won't have any of those problems with Hammers, I feel sure you will like the results, the wound Chanel's we have seen are almost picture perfect, we measure them with our fingers and they have all been 2 fingers wide and depending on where the animal was shot the length varies, rhe longest so far was 4 feet long

HARPERC · Jul 3, 2021

ButterBean said:
You won't have any of those problems with Hammers, I feel sure you will like the results, the wound Chanel's we have seen are almost picture perfect, we measure them with our fingers and they have all been 2 fingers wide and depending on where the animal was shot the length varies, rhe longest so far was 4 feet long

Is that 2 ButterBean fingers, or a more normal 7.5-8 glove size LOL!

I'd hate to see a nice antelope vanish in the mist!

northhunter · Jul 6, 2021

My 123's are supposed to arrive today. After this thread, I'm really hoping my rifle likes them!

bsnyder · Jul 6, 2021

They will. I had the worlds pickiest 300 wsm and the 166 HH shoot awesome and I picked up 150 fps over any other bullet I tried.

GLTaylor · Jul 12, 2021

The earlier question was about reporting on Hammer performance during the first cull hunt. Look up Hammered Down Under on the Hammertime Forum. It's sometimes hard to follow (language differences), but an incredible read. I believe a second round of testing either is, or shortly will be underway.
Take aways:
1. Lighter bullets at high velocity do WELL
2. More twist (much higher gyroscopic stability) enables far better penetration
3. SG of 2 or more is best (not 1.5 as previously assumed)
4. Almost all of the testing was done at relatively shorter distances, on animals from 70-1500+ lbs.

ButterBean · Jul 12, 2021

GLTaylor said:
The earlier question was about reporting on Hammer performance during the first cull hunt. Look up Hammered Down Under on the Hammertime Forum. It's sometimes hard to follow (language differences), but an incredible read. I believe a second round of testing either is, or shortly will be underway.
Take aways:
1. Lighter bullets at high velocity do WELL
2. More twist (much higher gyroscopic stability) enables far better penetration
3. SG of 2 or more is best (not 1.5 as previously assumed)
4. Almost all of the testing was done at relatively shorter distances, on animals from 70-1500+ lbs.

Underway now

ButterBean · Jul 12, 2021

GLTaylor said:
The earlier question was about reporting on Hammer performance during the first cull hunt. Look up Hammered Down Under on the Hammertime Forum. It's sometimes hard to follow (language differences), but an incredible read. I believe a second round of testing either is, or shortly will be underway.
Take aways:
1. Lighter bullets at high velocity do WELL
2. More twist (much higher gyroscopic stability) enables far better penetration
3. SG of 2 or more is best (not 1.5 as previously assumed)
4. Almost all of the testing was done at relatively shorter distances, on animals from 70-1500+ lbs.

1st round Result Photos