Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum
if people would just deal in facts and let the chips lie where they may we wouldn't have to think like that, but as it is I am trying to figure where the new north/south line will be so I am on the free side
Might need to go read up on cancers, you can get cancer from someone. Oral sex for 1.
I will submit a different experience. I am currently in Italy. If you recall it was ravaged pretty "hard" in the beginning with COVID. I wouldn't call the first go around as bad as it is currently here nor even a pale comparison to the **** show that is the US. The death rate among the elderly here was astonishing and especially terrible given how they are revered here. It is just accepted as the new normal now.
Italy was locked down. When I say locked down I mean enforced by the Police. You had to have papers just authorizing you travel from your home to work otherwise you could be fined 1300 Euro or detained. Masks were (and a year later) still are mandatory outside of ones own home.
Italy was able to suppress the infection rate down to nearly zero. Using masks, social distancing, contact tracing and isolation of infected persons.
Read the tables at the link:
Italy COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer
Italy Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.www.worldometers.info
Then a second wave of infection began after restrictions were lightened. They were not lifted, they were reduced. You still needed a mask within 6 feet of non-family members.
The lock down began again but it was too late (look at the upward trend). It took a full month of complete lockdown (again, can't go anywhere, need papers to travel) to reverse the trend - it is still slowly going down.
When I say lock down I am talking about para-military police at the round-abouts with submachine guns and check points where they check your papers and then decide to go through your vehicle or not looking for whatever they feel like.
The bottom line is the virus is deadly to some but it is very contagious. The problem is it impacts people in different ways and with some people not at all, they simply transmit the virus to others. I had a coworker who tested positive and never had a symptom and another who's Italian girlfriend was positive along with her entire family and he never got it (unknowingly shared same bed with her while she was positive).
Being 46 and healthy I chose to take the vaccine and received my second dose of Modern this morning, 28 days from the first dose. I had a sore arm for a day or two but that happens with Flu vaccine each year as well.
I have had the Flu after receiving a Flu vaccine but I was up on my feet in days vice the week for my daughter who opted out. Even if this vaccine has a shred of hope to reduce symptoms or prevent infection, I am taking that. You don't plan on getting in a car wreck but you most likely wear a seatbelt - I wear mine because of the other idiots on the road.
I think it is a personal choice to be personally responsible when it comes to getting the vaccine and nothing more. Do what you think is right for you but continue to do what is right for everyone else.
Side note: It will take something more than masks and travel restrictions to end this - look at Italy's data.
Well, you sure can't trust in the TV media.
Hell no.
Not wearing a seatbelt can cause you to lose control of a vehicle and result in the injury or death of someone other than you. Another thing, Casual, you are being lied to, and no one can deduce anything pertinent from false information, not even someone as intelligent as you appear to be.
I'm fat, 6.4 and diabetic. I don't need that shot. I like beating the odds.I done my part.
Passed on the juice to let someone else receive it. How can that be a bad thing...
