Hotrod-ed 6.5 Creed Vs Slow 270 win

[timberelk]

I'm advising a buddy on the above topic and wanted your guys thoughts...

Would you pick up a 6.5 Creed with a 22"-24" barrel and hot rod it to get around 2700 FPS with a 140 grain or load a 270 win at the low end so it produces around 2750 FPS with a 140 grain?

This rifle will be used for western hunting and the goal is approx 2000 FPS and 1250 FT LBS at 500. Both calibers hit those numbers at 500 yards but the recoil from the 270 is approx 2-3 pounds more vs the 13 lbs of recoil from the 6.5 with a 7lb gun.

Cost of reloading and brass life are also important.

 

[Dr. Vette]

or load a 270 win at the low end so it produces around 2750 FPS with a 140 grain?

Why would you do this?
Is your buddy horribly recoil shy?

 

[timberelk]

Why would you do this?
Is your buddy horribly recoil shy?

Thanks for bringing that up, I forget to mention he does not enjoy recoils and wants to reduce the recoil as much as possible without the use of a muzzle break.

 

[wbm]

Both calibers hit those numbers at 500 yards but the recoil from the 270 is approx 2-3 pounds more vs the 13 lbs of recoil from the 6.5 with a 7lb gun.

Think you answered your own question. If he is recoil shy go with the Creedmoor.

 

[LongWalker]

No need to hot-rod the 6.5 Creed to get 2700 fps. I'm running 140gr ELD-M out of a 24" tube at 2820 with zero pressure signs. I'm getting 2845 out of a 22" barrel but the bolt is a little sticky. RL-16 for both loads. No brake on either rifle and recoil is very mild.

 

[highdrum]

Rl26 will get over 2900 fps with 140s in the the creedmoor. Will do over 3k in a 26" pipe on top end loads.

 

[Creedmoor shooter]

I'm advising a buddy on the above topic and wanted your guys thoughts...

Would you pick up a 6.5 Creed with a 22"-24" barrel and hot rod it to get around 2700 FPS with a 140 grain or load a 270 win at the low end so it produces around 2750 FPS with a 140 grain?

This rifle will be used for western hunting and the goal is approx 2000 FPS and 1250 FT LBS at 500. Both calibers hit those numbers at 500 yards but the recoil from the 270 is approx 2-3 pounds more vs the 13 lbs of recoil from the 6.5 with a 7lb gun.

Cost of reloading and brass life are also important.

2700 isn't hot rodding the creed. I've topped out over 3k fps with 140s and rl-26. My go to load is 42 grains or rl-17 which is below max in Sierras manual and bergers manual, but right at max for hornady and that gets me to 2885. I have a 26in barrel.

 

[LongWalker]

2700 isn't hot rodding the creed. I've topped out over 3k fps with 140s and rl-26. My go to load is 42 grains or rl-17 which is below max in Sierras manual and bergers manual, but right at max for hornady and that gets me to 2885. I have a 26in barrel.

I unfortunately couldn't cram enough RL26 in the brass to make it work. I was more than .5 gr off max for the Berger 140 EH and was crunching powder. I sure wanted it to work.

 

[Barrelnut]

I unfortunately couldn't cram enough RL26 in the brass to make it work. I was more than .5 gr off max for the Berger 140 EH and was crunching powder. I sure wanted it to work.

Use an electric toothbrush on the side of the case to settle the powder in the case. It works.

 

[LongWalker]

Use an electric toothbrush on the side of the case to settle the powder in the case. It works.

That is a great recommendation. I will give it a go.

 

[Brent Drummond]

140 grain bullet at 2700 fps will recoil the same in both rifles. If they are the same weight. The higher B.C. of the 6.5 will carry it's energy farther though.

 

[Dr. Vette]

Thanks for bringing that up, I forget to mention he does not enjoy recoils and wants to reduce the recoil as much as possible without the use of a muzzle break.

Tell him to buy a 243.

I'm not sure that in real life he would ever notice the difference between a 6.5 Creedmoor and a 270 Winchester, especially if you're looking at similar weight bullets in similar rifles. I let my teenage girls shoot 270 Winchester and it never bothers them one bit. Even my recoil-shy hunting partner doesn't mind them.

So, tell him to buy whatever one he likes.

 

[MudRunner2005]

I'm advising a buddy on the above topic and wanted your guys thoughts...

Would you pick up a 6.5 Creed with a 22"-24" barrel and hot rod it to get around 2700 FPS with a 140 grain or load a 270 win at the low end so it produces around 2750 FPS with a 140 grain?

This rifle will be used for western hunting and the goal is approx 2000 FPS and 1250 FT LBS at 500. Both calibers hit those numbers at 500 yards but the recoil from the 270 is approx 2-3 pounds more vs the 13 lbs of recoil from the 6.5 with a 7lb gun.

Cost of reloading and brass life are also important.

Neither...I'd build a 26" barreled .260 AI with a 1:8 twist, and shoot the new Berger 155 Elite Hunters.

 

[highdrum]

I unfortunately couldn't cram enough RL26 in the brass to make it work. I was more than .5 gr off max for the Berger 140 EH and was crunching powder. I sure wanted it to work.

Run a 6" drop tube, will help you pack the extra powder in for a good fit.