Hornady ELD-X Official Thread

I've been experimenting quite a bit lately with the 150 ELD-X in a 7mm-08. Hunter powder isn't do it but Varget wasn't bad at 2825 fps MV.


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I could have been happy with this, but I had a seating depth test ready to go with Big Game powder, at 2828 fps MV.

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Now I'm done.






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I have read most of this thread and still haven't seen any data on the .277/145 ELD-X. I just got my load worked up for one so thought I would share.

Rifle is an old R-721 that was trued and had a 10 twist Hart barrel installed by Mike Bryant probably 6-8 years ago. Back then we didn't shoot LR, so just went with std twist. Barrel has been cut to 21", it runs with a SiCo Harvester on it and HS Pro 34 stock.

Load is WW brass, CCI-200, 145 ELD-X seated .020 off the lands, and 58.5 grains of H-4831 SC. Velocity with the can is right at 2925 fps and I am getting pretty consistent 4 shot, 1/2 MOA groups. I am pretty happy with it, that 145 breathes new life into a (relatively) slow twist 270. Shooter says at that velocity it carries 1000 FPE to a hair over 800 yards, and supersonic to over 1400.

This is my sons WT deer and hog rifle for shooting in the ravines and canyons here in the TX Panhandle.
 
I'm getting 2910 with a 162 in my 7mag. Haven't drawn a tag since I've started loading these pills so I don't have any on game performance sadly. But I CAN say that accuracyhas been great, and making shots in variable wind at 500 yards and above has become much easier and consistent. I'm very impressed with how flat they are flying and how predictble they are in the wind. I just wish the results on elk sized game at extended ranges was more consistent. I've read threads all over the internet that range from amazing, to don't waste your money. Although to be fair most negative reviews were from impacts inside 200 yards from cartridges that pack alot of velocity, which is hard for this type of bullet.
 
Reloading Eld finding out ogive to base bullets .005 difference Checked 224 73 eld, 7mm 180 eld, 168 eld . My sierra 183 ogive to base .001 between bullets. Heads up on chasing your ogive using Eld
 
Hello !
This is my first post here. Hunting mostly white tail deer in northern europe. Wanted to share my real life hunting experience with the ELD-X bullet. I have been using the Hornady factory load Precision Hunter in .308 Win. Shooting it from a Steyr Scout, chrono checked MV 2500fps/750ms.
We do meat/cull hunting for management, so i've shot only fawns and yearlings 1 1/2 yrs old, 10 deer so far. No long range shots sorry, from 100 meters up and maximum been 185 meters.

But people have been wondering how the bullet opens and does it hold together, so i hope this might help.

In the beginning of the season my point of aim was middle height just behind the front leg line in the shoulder. These hits were dropping the deer on the spot, not hitting the spine but i believe there was enough shock wave to cause pressure on the spine. Also the trauma on the lungs was severe, also on a few an heart artery was cut and there was trauma on the heart it self.
On one fawn i jerked the trigger when going for a double, ie. shot one and was busy shooting one more. The bullet hit low below the heart, just nicking the point of heart. The fawn ran maybe 40-50 meters but i was amazed about the blood on the ground and it was easy to track even in the falling darkness. The bullet had hit a rib going in and also going out, very low in the brisket(?). The in and exit holes were at least an inch in diameter, so the bullet works fine and opens up. This will be proven on some of the next animals.

After being quite sure that this bullet expands reliably and quickly, i decided to move my point of aim further back. Going for clean lung shots behind the shoulder, also because our guys were complaining of blood shot meat in the shoulders !! I know, finicky meat hunters :)

So now i've been shooting behind the shoulder. Even when the bullet enters between the ribs, it has done major work on the lungs and exit holes are at least an inch in diameter, this happens even on a fawn. On two does i've been able to drain the blood out from the exit hole of the lung shot.
On one yearling there was pieces of lung and liver in the exit hole, even when the bullet entered between the ribs, so i would say that the bullet is doing hard work in the engine room (thorax) of the deer. With lung shots the maximum running distance has been 20 meters.

How does it hold together ? Shot a yearling spike buck at 145 meters, frontal shot approx 30 degree angle left shoulder. On impact the deer jumped up in the air and then began spinning around on the spot for a few seconds before collapsing on the ground. Exit was on the opposite side at the last rib, exit hole was almost 2 inches. The shoulder was totally mangled and i had to cut it away, nothing to save. Engine room totally mangled also, just a bloody mess.

So i would say that we have a bullet that expands reliably and also penetrates trough, at least on short ranges on animals with a 17-55 kg carcass weight (40-120 lbs ?).

Now the rut is over and we are allowed to shoot big bucks. Just waiting for days off from work to be able and test these bullets on bigger animals.

Waiting to get my hands on the new .338 cal ELD-X bullets and load them for my Sako TRG42.

Has anyone any experience with the RWS Speed Tip Pro bullet ? Especially in .338 Lapua. RWS factory loads this combination.
 
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I used a 7mm Hornady 162 ELDX bullet in my XP-100 7mm RSAUM to take a young buck at 72 yards.

2774 fps chrono'd velocity.
Bullet size entrance.
Nickel-quarter size exit.

Impact was on the near side shoulder.
Exit behind offside shoulder.
Bullet traveled just above the heart, traveling thru both lungs, with plenty of trauma to the lungs (but not as much as I expected).

Plenty of blood in the chest cavity.

Deer dropped at the shot.
 
Hello !
This is my first post here. Hunting mostly white tail deer in northern europe. Wanted to share my real life hunting experience with the ELD-X bullet. I have been using the Hornady factory load Precision Hunter in .308 Win. Shooting it from a Steyr Scout, chrono checked MV 2500fps/750ms.
We do meat/cull hunting for management, so i've shot only fawns and yearlings 1 1/2 yrs old, 10 deer so far. No long range shots sorry, from 100 meters up and maximum been 185 meters.

But people have been wondering how the bullet opens and does it hold together, so i hope this might help.

In the beginning of the season my point of aim was middle height just behind the front leg line in the shoulder. These hits were dropping the deer on the spot, not hitting the spine but i believe there was enough shock wave to cause pressure on the spine. Also the trauma on the lungs was severe, also on a few an heart artery was cut and there was trauma on the heart it self.
On one fawn i jerked the trigger when going for a double, ie. shot one and was busy shooting one more. The bullet hit low below the heart, just nicking the point of heart. The fawn ran maybe 40-50 meters but i was amazed about the blood on the ground and it was easy to track even in the falling darkness. The bullet had hit a rib going in and also going out, very low in the brisket(?). The in and exit holes were at least an inch in diameter, so the bullet works fine and opens up. This will be proven on some of the next animals.

After being quite sure that this bullet expands reliably and quickly, i decided to move my point of aim further back. Going for clean lung shots behind the shoulder, also because our guys were complaining of blood shot meat in the shoulders !! I know, finicky meat hunters :)

So now i've been shooting behind the shoulder. Even when the bullet enters between the ribs, it has done major work on the lungs and exit holes are at least an inch in diameter, this happens even on a fawn. On two does i've been able to drain the blood out from the exit hole of the lung shot.
On one yearling there was pieces of lung and liver in the exit hole, even when the bullet entered between the ribs, so i would say that the bullet is doing hard work in the engine room (thorax) of the deer. With lung shots the maximum running distance has been 20 meters.

How does it hold together ? Shot a yearling spike buck at 145 meters, frontal shot approx 30 degree angle left shoulder. On impact the deer jumped up in the air and then began spinning around on the spot for a few seconds before collapsing on the ground. Exit was on the opposite side at the last rib, exit hole was almost 2 inches. The shoulder was totally mangled and i had to cut it away, nothing to save. Engine room totally mangled also, just a bloody mess.

So i would say that we have a bullet that expands reliably and also penetrates trough, at least on short ranges on animals with a 17-55 kg carcass weight (40-120 lbs ?).

Now the rut is over and we are allowed to shoot big bucks. Just waiting for days off from work to be able and test these bullets on bigger animals.

Waiting to get my hands on the new .338 cal ELD-X bullets and load them for my Sako TRG42.

Has anyone any experience with the RWS Speed Tip Pro bullet ? Especially in .338 Lapua. RWS factory loads this combination.
I have yet to see a problem with the ELD-X's failing to expand, the problem is overexpansion and bullet breakup.

With the total mass of the .338's the only possible problem you're likely to see is deer popping like a prairie dog shot with a .204 Ruger.

I'm not sure if Peregrines are available in Europe or not but if you want a bullet that will always expand and never overexpand or breakup the VRG4 and VLR's will definitely fit the bill.

I've also had excellent luck with the Grom "Thuder" Bullets in factory Privi Partisan 180gr .300wm Ammo. I shot a few of them in Africa and was quite surprised with their performance on both large/heavy bodied game and very light game such as Springbok.

They are primarily copper with a small lead core and from their performance I believe they are bonded but can't swear to it.

If the Hornady Interbond is available it is an excellent choice for the same reasons. I shot them almost exclusively for more than two decades until Hornady shut off their production for a couple of years gearing up for the ELD-X line.

I also had a long conversation with the guys at Hornady today first calling about some load data for the .375 Ruger but drifted into a discussion of the ELD-X.

Apparently I'm not the only guy seeing the problem with the ELD-X or suggesting that using the same bonding process as the Interbond would likely take the bullet to a completely new level in the market.
 
I harvested a Coues Whitetail this past week with a 143g ELD-X chambered in 6.5 CM. MZ is about 2600fps and the shot was ~500yds putting the estimated impact velocity around ~1900fps.
The deer was quartering away and the shot hit high in the ribs, went right through the chest cavity (liver lungs) and lodged under the skin behind the opposite shoulder.
The recovered bullet has separated into two main pieces and together they weighed in at 78.5g
I've attached a picture.

My impressions: The expansion was impressive and seemed to expand right away as soon as it hit the ribs. It's not a particularly tough bullet and I personally wouldn't use it on anything tougher than deer/antelope, at least in this weight class. (I have a 200g ELD-X that I will probably try out on elk) The ease of expansion means that it should still be good to use at longer ranges/lower impact velocities. It did it's job.

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I harvested a Coues Whitetail this past week with a 143g ELD-X chambered in 6.5 CM. MZ is about 2600fps and the shot was ~500yds putting the estimated impact velocity around ~1900fps.
The deer was quartering away and the shot hit high in the ribs, went right through the chest cavity (liver lungs) and lodged under the skin behind the opposite shoulder.
The recovered bullet has separated into two main pieces and together they weighed in at 78.5g
I've attached a picture.

My impressions: The expansion was impressive and seemed to expand right away as soon as it hit the ribs. It's not a particularly tough bullet and I personally wouldn't use it on anything tougher than deer/antelope, at least in this weight class. (I have a 200g ELD-X that I will probably try out on elk) The ease of expansion means that it should still be good to use at longer ranges/lower impact velocities. It did it's job.

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I had much the same results with them. More of us need to call Hornady with the same complaint and urge them to use the same bonding process on them they use with the Interbond.

Hornady is very good about responding to customer input.
 
I had much the same results with them. More of us need to call Hornady with the same complaint and urge them to use the same bonding process on them they use with the Interbond.

Hornady is very good about responding to customer input.


That will most likely force them to increase the prices and put them in Interbond price territory. In that price range I´d choose berger bullets every day of the week. I've found bonded bullets very hard to group so that and the price tag would make me look elsewhere
 
That will most likely force them to increase the prices and put them in Interbond price territory. In that price range I´d choose berger bullets every day of the week. I've found bonded bullets very hard to group so that and the price tag would make me look elsewhere
You've been shooting the wrong bonded bullets then or not spending enough time working up a load.

There's nothing at all inherently accurate about a bonded bullet and they will fly the same as a comparable non bonded bullet of the same caliber, weight, form factor etc.
 
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