FFP VS 2nd FP scope
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Clem Bronkoski
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I like that "no math in the field". I just started using FFP scopes a couple years ago and I like them a lot more.
I guess it's what yoh know.. I grew up on a fixed 12X leupold- ranging distance was simple, now that the focus is on the left side, it became even simpler.. Most of today's SFP planes have 1 or 2 X that are set to the calibrated distance. I leave all mine set to the highest power magnification, as it's what I'm accustomed too..
A quick check out of the box, to verify the distance on the focus knob, & tracking …then it'll get mounted.. Have the retical stay the same size is a plus for me, I never could hit anything with the retical cover up what I was aiming at..
It's a matter of preference I suppose..
A quick check out of the box, to verify the distance on the focus knob, & tracking …then it'll get mounted.. Have the retical stay the same size is a plus for me, I never could hit anything with the retical cover up what I was aiming at..
It's a matter of preference I suppose..
I switched to FFP some years back when I started shooting PRS competition where the benefits of an FFP are quite obvious. Using a common platform for both hunting and competition made sense to me. Besides the advantage mentioned in the video, I switched to MILs over MOA for the benefit of reduced turret scaling for elevation/windage) and easier math( 6.2MILs = 21.3MOA)…1000 yard dope for my hunting rifle.
I really didn't see that much hindrance or effect on my success when using MOA for hunting When using SFP, my approach for an easy way of getting around the changing reticle scale was to stick to two or three specific power settings that were quite easy to account for the substentions while in the field, whether long or short range. For example on a 5X20 SFP scope where the reticle was calibrated for 1 MOA at 20X, I would carry at 10X(2 MOA). If needed(which was quite rare) in tighter quarters at 5X(4MOA). Long range shots would be taken at 20X. Quite frankly, for longer shots when time was available, I'd often just dial the turret(s) for corrections and apply all concentration on the retical center.
I really didn't see that much hindrance or effect on my success when using MOA for hunting When using SFP, my approach for an easy way of getting around the changing reticle scale was to stick to two or three specific power settings that were quite easy to account for the substentions while in the field, whether long or short range. For example on a 5X20 SFP scope where the reticle was calibrated for 1 MOA at 20X, I would carry at 10X(2 MOA). If needed(which was quite rare) in tighter quarters at 5X(4MOA). Long range shots would be taken at 20X. Quite frankly, for longer shots when time was available, I'd often just dial the turret(s) for corrections and apply all concentration on the retical center.
I have both FFP and SFP scopes. There is one drawback to FFP on some scopes. The crosshair is very fine on low magnification. The place where this would be a huge disadvantage is hunting elk or bears in thick cover in low light. If the scope has an illuminated reticle or dot this issue is resolved.
keith4kk
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I have mainly FFP but do use both. I agree about the small reticle at low mag. Although it makes ranging a lot easier at all other distances and various magnification. All my FFP hunted scopes have illuminated center dot or cross hair, just the center. This helps in a close situation. Leupold firedot, Sig Hellfire, Arken all have just center illumination. I have strelok set up for the SFP scopes and it allows me to change ballistics at varied magnifications. I tested it out to 400 yards and it holds true. Although when hunting with SFP I set my dope at a constant mag and leave it so I don't have to adjust on the fly. Ex.. I set my 270 at 12 power, don't shoot past 500 and have my SFP DOPE set to match. If the deer is within 300 yards it doesn't matter I just aim and fire, it's a hot flat load.
D Lee
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I envy you FFP folks who are savvy with math. Like Greyfox. Wish I could do it. Tried. Also tried to find a local mentor. Unsuccessful. A $ costly misadventure. As my "hunting" is typically inside 400 yards, I just set my MOA scope 3.5" high @ 100. Good to go!
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Thank you James Eagleman,you made it easy my friend.
I am originally from the south and down there cut-overs or pipelines and high-lines long shots were 300-350 yards so a SFP scope was what I used and did well but here in Montana things get different so I keep my older SFP scopes but newer scopes are all FFP with illuminated reticles.
I am originally from the south and down there cut-overs or pipelines and high-lines long shots were 300-350 yards so a SFP scope was what I used and did well but here in Montana things get different so I keep my older SFP scopes but newer scopes are all FFP with illuminated reticles.
Clem Bronkoski
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That is exactly the reason I got a FFP scope with an illuminated reticle! The best of both worlds.
Use both and it's easy to understand both for me. FFP or SFP and MOA or MIL. If it was a perfect world I'd have the same scope/reticle combo on all my rifles but that's cost prohibitive for me. 18 different custom rifles doesn't make it an easy switch.
Sealesniper
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I shoot my NF at full power 99.9% of the time so a non issue for me. Also windage not a normal big factor in eastern NC as most of the lanes we shoot are 700 yards or less and have trees on each side to block or reduce wind drift. But I see the value in FFP, but sold all mine years ago when I went to all ATACR's in SFP.
