I can not speak for all safes, just Sentry and Cannon. They keys are usually shipped with the safe and it is up to the owner to keep them in a hidden area, NOT in the same safe. The key hole is usually under the electronic keypad. I do not know if the manufacturer will send replacesment keyes, but for "overide codes" assuming the lock works, it involves the local police to make sure you are the owner.You're more than welcome to show me where my "back-up" key would have been on my safe! Jus Say'n……that's not an option on all safes!memtb
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Finally someone that gets it
A friend of mine had a newer safe with an electronic lock. He had a fire and thankfully the safe did its job and protected what was inside. Although all the plastics in the lock mechanism melted and couldn't be opened. $400.00 later the safe was opened. Are there some instructions/hints somewhere on how to swap the electronic lock for a Sargeant Greenlee replacement?
I tried making wine from them. Followed instructions exactly. My wine tasted like crap. Recently went to a local winery and tried a sample of their dandelion wine and it tasted exactly like the crap I had made. I guess you have to get used to it.
mongo4567
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I paid about $70 bucks for my last one, looks like the kit is up to about $130. The kit has instructions.
Amazon product ASIN B002EDF466
Here's a video with a description of the problem, picture of the common lock, and how to replace it. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?...62C2BB78407C49A887C362C&view=detail&FORM=VIRE
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memtb
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I got my instructions from the internet….YouTube I think! I think there were some instructions inside the S&G box ….but, have slept since then!
memtb
I just got back from Bass Pro. I checked out several safes and all had E-Locks. I attempted to see if there was a key slot under the e-lock. It may be under there, but I couldn't find it. I'm still a mechanical fan.
Yes.
In my case I'd just go to the other safe with the dial lock. It's got a few things like stuffed full in it and the bulk of the ammo.
It depends on the altitude of the burst and your geography. If your neighbors in a valley were hit with an EMP burst the mountains between you and them will provide some protection
QuietTexan
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I'm not worried about an EMP. I can see Lockheed/ AF Plant 4 from my house. I won't even see the flash before I evaporate.
Buck Fever
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Electromagnetic radiation essentially works like an inductive cook top. It creates currents in metals and because the metals have resistance, they heat up. Little EMR like radio waves creates tiny currents, just big enough to amplify in to a sound signal, big EMR like an EMP will melt a high resistance Faraday cage and fry the electronics inside.
In my opinion mechanical locks are more reliable and any electronic lock with a backup key is only as good as the key lock (way less secure than a good combination lock).
On the other hand, I think the lock is only a small part of real security and you should make it hard for a theif to even get to the lock.
If you want to prepare against EMP, you need spare electronics that you can keep locked inside a serious Faraday cage, well grounded with small gaps on the door and probably solid metal construction rather than mesh. I don't think I need a safe for this, probably just a modified jobs site toolbox with a good puck style lock. All I need are some batteries, radios, probably a computer with a lot of valuable information and books stored on it, solar panels and a charge controller.
In my opinion mechanical locks are more reliable and any electronic lock with a backup key is only as good as the key lock (way less secure than a good combination lock).
On the other hand, I think the lock is only a small part of real security and you should make it hard for a theif to even get to the lock.
If you want to prepare against EMP, you need spare electronics that you can keep locked inside a serious Faraday cage, well grounded with small gaps on the door and probably solid metal construction rather than mesh. I don't think I need a safe for this, probably just a modified jobs site toolbox with a good puck style lock. All I need are some batteries, radios, probably a computer with a lot of valuable information and books stored on it, solar panels and a charge controller.
