Done with 215 Bergers

[Martin@Hin]

Use Sierra and end all the ******** fancy name crap. Speer also. All you guys want to do is brag at the coffee shop about you expensive bullet. 50 years of experience speaking on Elk, Deer, and big bear.

Your right,also use a big game rifle.
Like Elmer said ; for anything on this continent and one rifle only start with a .33.
Exit wounds give you a blood trail for the bad shots.
A waste of energy is a moot point if you have lots of it.

 

[gator378]

Your right,also use a big game rifle.
Like Elmer said ; for anything on this continent and one rifle only start with a .33.
Exit wounds give you a blood trail for the bad shots.
A waste of energy is a moot point if you have lots of it.

Agree

 

[Warbird2006]

I'll never understand why people hunt with target bullets. I don't care that someone 'tested' it and its better than sliced bread. I've seen way too many stories like yours. It shows a remarkable lack of respect for the ethics of hunting.

You are completely right. Berger bullets were always good competition and benchrest bullets. Some hunters think if they use these bullets, they will become better hunters. My son-in law lost so many whitetails until I loaded him ammo with round nose bullets.

 

[L.Sherm]

You are completely right. Berger bullets were always good competition and benchrest bullets. Some hunters think if they use these bullets, they will become better hunters. My son-in law lost so many whitetails until I loaded him ammo with round nose bullets.

Why don't everbody just shoot bullets they want and we be done with threads like this, its just beating a dead horse farther into the ground.

 

[Kimber7man]

I really don't want to be using round nose bullets at long range.

This is a Long Range Hunting forum, correct???

 

[JAYgs8163]

Really, let's move on. Shoot what you want. Berger also makes hunting bullets and not just target bullets. Just like Sierra, Swift, Hornady, Nosler, etc..... everyone has a opinion just like that other orifice on your body.

 

[swe123]

Calling a target bullet a hunting bullet does not make it one.

 

[JAYgs8163]

Calling a target bullet a hunting bullet does not make it one.

Yup, agree. Tell that to Sierra, Hornady, Swift, Nosler and all the others also.

 

[Tumbleweed]

Calling a target bullet a hunting bullet does not make it one.

No, but a long, well documented history of success on game sure does. You simply can't argue with real life results

 

[swe123]

No, but a long, well documented history of success on game sure does. You simply can't argue with real life results

And real life failures.

 

[David Urasky]

If you want a bullet designed for hunting purposes, use a hunting bullet. If you want a thick jacketed bullet designed to stay together at extremely high spin rates, and not meant to expand, use a target bullet. Read Berger's hunting bullet description, it's designed to penetrate 2-3 inches then explode to destroy internal organs. No exit hole, That is exactly what I see my Berger HUNTING bullets do. When I shoot F-class I use target bullets. They are meant to put holes in paper at 1000 yards. And yes, I've pulled them from the berm and they are in one piece undeformed. THEY ARE NOT MEANT TO EXPAND. That is why it says, NOT SUITABLE FOR HUNTING!

I am so tired of people bashing bullets which are being used for things they are not designed for.

 

[Tumbleweed]

And real life failures.

Ha ha! Some may say that. I've used many styles and weights of Bergers for probably 12 years and never had a "failure" or bad experience of any sort. Certainly no lost game. In fact, there's been a couple situations with new, inexperienced hunters where the Berger saved the situation when a shot was placed less than ideal. I don't care what anyone says, they're beyond proven around our house and we will continue to use them as long as they're available.

 

[Nomosendero]

No, but a long, well documented history of success on game sure does. You simply can't argue with real life results

Yes, real life results that can be shared with others is the main reason I view these threads. If you don't ponder those results, then why would we be here?
As quoted above a long history of success is the main thing I look for and of course I view the failures too! The problem with the failures unless they are verified is the chance (sometimes likely chance) that the placement was not where the shooter believed it to be if that animal is not recovered.

A sample of one or 2 is a little iffy, but I don't ignore them but on the other hand I know weird crap can happen with the best of bullets. My Wife's hunting bullet that I load for her in a 6.5x55 & her 6.5CM is the 140 Nosler Partition. That bullet is perfect for her as she has a self imposed 300yd. limit so the max. BC is not required. She has taken 2 Elk with that bullet and several Deer. The bullet penetrated both shoulders and exited both of the Elk and always hole in and out of the Deer except one. It was a smaller Buck than she normally shoots and did not hit much bone but did not penetrate far, I never could figure out why but I have figured out that if you shoot enough animals you will have a strange experience or 2.

So, I try to look at the total numbers and also the most accurate info given on placement along with range. What I have gathered from reading tons about the 215 Berger is that it works. After all, when you see that Broz has witnessed more Elk taken with that bullet than the number of Elk that most will see in our lifetime alive it seems to be quite compelling. I would think in the interest of his customers he would change bullets if he needed to.

 

[billflangjr813]

FMJ Bullets are not made for hunting Big game. Do your research!!