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You could since we typically use 28-31 gauge needles, but from our testing Bergers were unnecessary. This was mainly a mono issue we encountered. Berger obviously have the tip clearing issue but there were specific mono's needed something else to promote consistency and get back the "pop". We were able to watch this occurrence thanks to our slow motion camera.
What's your website? This slow mo on it?
 
Yes Full, but there many variables to this also, all tips are not created equal (materials, densities, and machining). There are irregularities among them. When seated to the metal alloy there is always a finite "gap". This gap is evident when the projectile is in motion and the oil is evacuated. How much oil remains? This is unfortunately not measurable.
We see evidence of this as the "vapor" as most know it, is expelled. I'm unfortunately unable to share which oil is the best and procedures to install yet until I am an active sponsor due to my involvement in this industry.
So is this a fix for bullets that didn't perform to your liking that your selling? Or did I miss read the post?
 
LHD,
The gentleman had asked what oil we are using? I simply cannot divulge our formula or injection process.
However, I have offered many other methods and substances that work well "free". Example: basic 28 gauge syringes etc. (I will not try to market or sell my products without being a sponsor.) Some of those "oils" produced up to 8% larger expansion with a more violent "pop" after impact as seen with our Claravision. Its not about what bullets didn't perform to my liking. It's about providing a solution to some bullets that do not perform as well as others even within their own brand. We as hunters are always trying to raise the bar on our tools we use.

We tried using oils on pure lead hollow points to cup and core to bonded and then monos. Lead simply responded nearly the same with or without the oils/solutions we tried. Copper alloys varied among brands and results because there are so many variables. What we do know is there are products that facilitate expansion without question. Is it needed? That could be said for everything we do. I don't want to get into weeds too much. But understand solutions to some types of bullets are coming even though we may not feel a solution is needed!

We are trying to mitigate inconsistencies among all brand.
 

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Hmm 🤔

I'm thinking someone is really having some fun here. 😂🤣
Correct I enjoy improving and implementing new ideas. Today I'm trying modifications on 22Mag rimfires. Interesting what simple tinfoil will do.

Also getting a new barrel chambered, a serengeti bore rider reamer! Going to be testing the ol'06. Enjoy
 

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Correct I enjoy improving and implementing new ideas. Today I'm trying modifications on 22Mag rimfires. Interesting what simple tinfoil will do.

Also getting a new barrel chambered a Serengeti bore rider reamer! Going to be testing the ol'06. Enjoy
Tinfoil? now this could be interesting to hear about.
 
Tinfoil? now this could be interesting to hear about.
Make a hat wirh the tinfoil, put it on your head, then go shoot lots of different types of rim fire ammo to see which one works best in your rifle 😜 and talk about how the government is conspiring to make all ammo too expensive to buy and shoot--- cause we all know if ammo is too expensive we will all just willingly give up our guns

( just having a little fun guys)
 
Seriously? With all the bullet selections today...I'm going to buy something I need to " fix" before I shoot.....fill with butter, cooking oils, transmission oil....if I was crazy enough to do this I'd jump for the Vaseline jar...." Cause long or short, thick or thin.. Vaseline will get more than just the tip in" and its proven to help with RAPID EXPANSION!
 
Seriously? With all the bullet selections today...I'm going to buy something I need to " fix" before I shoot.....fill with butter, cooking oils, transmission oil....if I was crazy enough to do this I'd jump for the Vaseline jar...." Cause long or short, thick or thin.. Vaseline will get more than just the tip in" and its proven to help with RAPID EXPANSION!
While the last part is pretty funny, I think this is just a way to help performance. It's a way to get more out of the bullet and keep the cavity from folding over on itself with glancing bone impacts, high angle shots, etc.

The soft copper of certain monos are susceptible to nosing over and the fluid or wax creates a hydraulic pressure to help push out against the walls of the cavity preventing it from folding over on itself in those situations and also helping the petals explode away.

It's an inherent flaw with the soft copper open tips that some don't want to talk about. It may be a less common shot (steep angle and glancing off bone), but it does happen.

So is it necessary? No. Can it help with certain monos? Yes. Is it worth messing with? Maybe to some.
 
Seriously? With all the bullet selections today...I'm going to buy something I need to " fix" before I shoot.....fill with butter, cooking oils, transmission oil....if I was crazy enough to do this I'd jump for the Vaseline jar...." Cause long or short, thick or thin.. Vaseline will get more than just the tip in" and it's proven to help with RAPID EXPANSION!
Skip I would agree, but as long as certain bullets are made then there will be a need for "Boi". Some companies have a little soft bag to wipe them down others have a small mallet to install tips. Sometimes we need to "fix" as you say. I wouldn't call them fixes but some companies are like that. It's fine. You do what you need to do with Vaseline, it doesn't work as well but you'll need all the help you can get up there in the cold. I don't think you understand rapid expansion, maybe fragmenting? Thanks for your insight
 
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While the last part is pretty funny, I think this is just a way to help performance. It's a way to get more out of the bullet and keep the cavity from folding over on itself with glancing bone impacts, high angle shots, etc.

The soft copper of certain monos are susceptible to nosing over and the fluid or wax creates a hydraulic pressure to help push out against the walls of the cavity preventing it from folding over on itself in those situations and also helping the petals explode away.

It's an inherent flaw with the soft copper open tips that some don't want to talk about. It may be a less common shot (steep angle and glancing off bone), but it does happen.

So is it necessary? No. Can it help with certain monos? Yes. Is it worth messing with? Maybe to some.
Very well stated! Thanks. I appreciate your input you seem to understand the problem! So do many others that have reached out in PM's to understand more and asked for the file.
 
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