Bull Down 6.5 Sherman strikes again !!

[clownbuster]

...I once got in a hurry because I knew it was a good hit. Walked up on my dead cow all sprawled out, and she jumped up and ran off. I found her a week later a half mile away.
Congratulations friend, good hunt!

+THIS. "Experience: that most brutal of teachers. But you learn, my God do you learn". William Nicholson

 

[operator1]

Waiting for help lol but it's snowy miserable I go for walk and crush a 5 point bull at an outrageous distance of 50 yards.
I walked right up on them didn't even know I was there first hour of my 3 day hunt. Pics to follow but dam couldn't get any better. Now my Dad at the age of 66 is gearing up to come help me Gona be a hell of a day!!!!
I sure my buddy can get some time off work as well.
2 hits from the Sherman he went about 30 feet and bedded down he should be done by the time I get back in an hour.
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Rich if your watching what a way to retire the 6.5 Shermanfir it's big brother.

Got to agree with everyone else. It's your duty as a hunter to make sure he is not suffering as quickly as possible.

 

[trhall]

Got to agree with everyone else. It's your duty as a hunter to make sure he is not suffering as quickly as possible.

"Everyone Else" doesn't agree. I agree with exactly how Ramrod handled it. You want to "prolong the suffering" go ahead and run after that bull, jump him and get all that adrenaline pumping. Now he can run for 5 or 10 miles where if you'd have just left him alone and backed out for 30 minutes or an hour he'd have expired. You know, just like the old guys did back in the 30-30 days or like all of the archery hunters or muzzle loader hunters that are worth their salt do today. Since he was obviously posting a quick "hunt update" with more details to follow from his phone you should have "***-umed" that the bull wasn't visible to him rather than ***-uming that he was looking it right in the eye and decided to just be an A-hole and leave to bleed out rather than finishing it.

 

[clownbuster]

?? "Everyone else"? You referring to the four out of the thirty responders that lit him up as "everyone else"? He did his duty to you; he shot it with a high powered rifle. Its "his duty" to make sure he retrieves his animal in a timely manner after the shot, not push it to point of a lost animal. He made a judgement call (without you), it was obviously the correct one as the animal was harvested, rather than wasted. Shooting an animal, results in a suffering of the animal. Go work on a farm, better optics.
Yes, next time @ramrod79 shoot it with a tranquilizer, then these guys can come kill it for you "the right way". We'll call it, "Death by stupid".
I can't hardly believe this thread...

 

[willyqbc]

Those that can ..... do. Those that can't ..... analyze and criticize/shame others on the internet!

Good job on the elk! Enjoy the meat and memories...ignore the rest!

 

[clownbuster]

@ramrod79
Thanks again for sharing your successful hunt. BUT, I noticed your thread title is, Bull Down 6.5 Sherman strikes again !! ...implying that at least once before, God forbid, you've actually killed something in the past? Possibly even harvested it? Please DO post any previous kills for all these uninitiated that say, but do not.

 

[merasmus]

Waiting for help lol but it's snowy miserable I go for walk and crush a 5 point bull at an outrageous distance of 50 yards.
I walked right up on them didn't even know I was there first hour of my 3 day hunt. Pics to follow but dam couldn't get any better. Now my Dad at the age of 66 is gearing up to come help me Gona be a hell of a day!!!!
I sure my buddy can get some time off work as well.
2 hits from the Sherman he went about 30 feet and bedded down he should be done by the time I get back in an hour.
Emoji thumbs up.
Rich if your watching what a way to retire the 6.5 Shermanfir it's big brother.

I've never had a Moose walk away after 2 shots from my 7 mag.

 

[hunter67wa]

Well gee lets see. When I was deployed and was being told to watch Rules of Engagement as you will be judged by someone who wasn't there nor has been in the same situation. I guess it applies here to. What a shame.

 

[elkaholic]

I've never had a Moose walk away after 2 shots from my 7 mag.

I had a moose absorb 4 rounds from a 300 Rum at 400 yards and dropped one at 906 with one shot from the 6.5 SS, so what's your point??

 

[rogerstep]

Waiting for help lol but it's snowy miserable I go for walk and crush a 5 point bull at an outrageous distance of 50 yards.
I walked right up on them didn't even know I was there first hour of my 3 day hunt. Pics to follow but dam couldn't get any better. Now my Dad at the age of 66 is gearing up to come help me Gona be a hell of a day!!!!
I sure my buddy can get some time off work as well.
2 hits from the Sherman he went about 30 feet and bedded down he should be done by the time I get back in an hour.
Emoji thumbs up.
Rich if your watching what a way to retire the 6.5 Shermanfir it's big brother.

Congratulations- you were there so it was your call. I have shot several elk with my 7mag and not
one of them expired with out going a bit of distance or taking their time expiring. That is why
I went to a 338, so far, go no place, expire quickly

 

[Elk Fire]

First, congrats are in order and in good taste.
G R E A T job ramrod on your successful hunt. You killed an elk and took it home. Perfect hunt.

Second, what a bunch of judgmental, self-righteous, know-it-all a$$holes. This is one of the many reasons I stopped giving time here and on other "rifle hunting guru" forums, especially geared toward "long range". Simply remove the mechanical methods from archery, muzzle loader and the modern firearm, and you're left with a shot (or multiples), a judgement call, a decision, and the result of it. It was yours to make and the result proves you made the correct one. Come pull that small-minded, mamby-pamby, high-powered, "you should have", "you should be ashamed of yourself" ******** over here on the archery and muzzle loader forums; I guarantee you'll see a side of a hunter you've never seen before.

@Elk Fire "No way in heck I would be leaving a bull for an hour that I wasn't positive was dead." Clearly, you've never shot an elk with a bow, a muzzle loader, or likely shot an elk ever. You weren't there, you don't know anything. But please, tell us all how you would've made that positive conclusion in that environment without possibly pushing the animal further. This situation is like a three-legged stool, with one of the legs being the decision to "go in after him" to verify. Good thing you weren't there, he probably would've lost it.

@TG-5150 "Just curious, why not put him down instead of waiting"? Good question, he gave his answer, be ok with it.

@WeiserBucks "Behavior like this is what gives us all a bad name . You should be ashamed of yourself ramrod79 . The game we hunt deserves our utmost respect and the cleanest harvest possible." Well it's clear, daddy should've whooped your *** at some point in your life. You should be ashamed of your "ethics/behavior/respect-shaming" you put on him. So ALL your hunts are and historically been one shot, one kills? In reality, behavior like yours is what gives you a bad name.

I didn't see any of you pu$$ies jumping on the Idaho guy on here, this season, who shot a bull cross canyon in Montana from 940 yards with a 6.5 SAUM, and when he FINALLY got to it hours later, was STILL ALIVE. Where were you "pros" then to tell him all he DID WRONG?

How do any of you know his bull didn't die immediately after laying down? All think/say they can shoot and hunt, when if fact most can't and/or don't. Instead of seeing all he did wrong and pouncing, give him some grace, congratulate him on his success and go about your day.
Expert hunters; either post up your "perfect kills" this season or go f#(k off.

Lol, least half your handle is accurate....

Funny thing about these little internet brawls, they sure take on a life of there own. All the negativity and bickering is not between the OP and guys that questioned the circumstances/decision to leave, but by the question askers and knights on white horses riding in to save him.
Assclown, I never said nor implied any of what you added, neither did any of the other guys expressing questions about the follow up, that's all you. Saying you would or wouldn't do something the same way is not condemning the OP, or implying that he has some level of experience or not. Doesn't matter, given what was posted, I stand fully by what I said. The Op has no obligation to consider it, leave it or otherwise. You on the other hand can let your obviously over active imagination run wild and guess what I think you and your opinion can go do..

 

[Sykes]

Pretty unfortunate a guy puts up a post about his elk hunt and the whole thread goes a different direction.

 

[HokiMD]

Behavior like this is what gives us all a bad name . You should be ashamed of yourself ramrod79 . The game we hunt deserves our utmost respect and the cleanest harvest possible.

Interesting to read the responses to this thread. I will say the way I was taught to hunt was to wait a period of time to allow the animal to expire. I was always told by multiple people that it is better to wait, and not push the animal in case it was not an ideal hit, and allow the animal to pass. I was always told especially so if you can't see the animal. So the hunter here could wait, or go try to find the animal. You practice things certain ways to have expected outcomes. If thats how he/she does it every time, don't mess with it, because when you start doing different things, thats when it goes wrong. So if thats how he does it, then thats the smartest course. If others thing there is a different way to do it, I'd like to hear the reasoning why you should search for a potentially wounded animal and maybe push it? Thats how I was taught, and heck, how many shows show a hunter shooting an animal, then questioning the shot, and leaving them sit sometimes over night. So it seems that some feel this is not the best course, and I would like to hear reasoning why...

As far as leaving the bull, if the decision is to wait, why does it matter. If your sitting there for an hour, not having eyes on the game, vs going back to get help to either a.) help with quartering/gutting/etc or b.) track a wounded animal. 2 eyes are better than 1, so either way going to get more help is beneficial imo, especially since it sounds like the hunter couldn't see the animal, so if you can't see it, why's it matter if you are there or not?

And as far as the humane kill, would like to hear thoughts on this. Is it more humane to let the animal be shot once or twice, then bedding and dying, or to find them, and keep shooting them again multiple times? I think getting shot 3 or 4 times hurts more than getting shot 1-2, so is the pain of multiple shots more humane than maybe taking a longer time to die? Just an interesting question to pose.

 

[Warbird2006]

These are not me. But this is why Sherman did the right thing.