I am spending more and more time with my raging bull 454 in my cross chest holster. Grizzly's have taken over my deer hunting area in the Hoback of Wyoming. I hunter shot and killed a big boar last year that attacked him. That being said, I haven't jumped on board with the 6.5 craze. I have had 7mm, 300 rum, 338 win mag, 3006 and my favorite 338 rum. Last fall my 300 rum barrel gave out, and I had my smith put my still good 338 rum broughton on my 300 rum action. That action started as a 338 win mag, so it just seemed right to go back to the big bore. So now I have two 338 rums as my hunting rifles! Why, I want to shoot lighter bullets out of this one. I have a bunch of swift sirrocco 210's to try out as soon as the weather isn't so cold, maybe this week! I am hoping to push the 210's between 3300 and 3400 so they will be flat shooting with plenty of punch to 800 plus. Up close with a grizz will still be a fight stopper. I have done much testing trying to determine the best type of bullet to save my life. The jury is still out. 300 gr accubonds penetrate deeply, but are so tough, they don't make a big wound channel. 300 grain Bergers have never failed me, but I can't say that I trust they will penetrate enough on a point blank one and done attempt. Last season I played with the Hornady 285 eldm and was pleasantly surprised to surpass 3000 fps. Only made two kills on antelope, needless to say neither took a step and very little meat was lost. As I get older, having a heavy handgun and a heavy rifle does take it's toll, but a little conditioning can help. As I try to drop weight on my carry rifles, I am looking more and more to carbon wrapped barrels, so my next build will probably be a carbon wrapped barrel in say 300 rum or 338 rum. I will let the others experiment with the 6.5's. As for the big bore handgun, I never shoot it double action, not to say I can't, but I am just much more accurate single action. I load up a stiff load of lil gun behind a 300 grain nosler partion handgun. I am debating buying a 10 mm auto for a lighter carry option, but I don't buy into the extra fire power unless you happen on to a herd of Grizzlies! I think of it like this, try driving a nail with a 2 oz ball pein hammer. Then pick up a 4 lb sledge and hit the same nail............nuff said!