adk hunter
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Oh I did too. That is why I mentioned the snowstorm LOL
I agree about GNP 100%
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I agree about GNP 100%
I was in British Columbia hunting bears in 1999. there I seen moving bear in 330 yard. My guide said shoot and I did . Missed the bear but we looked for tracks there And what happened ? I found my bullett ,
180 grain out of an 8x68 S . Like u see it might have hit a stone . Weight is nearly the same !!!
180 grain out of an 8x68 S . Like u see it might have hit a stone . Weight is nearly the same !!!
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It boils down to personal preference/intended purpose, but the beauty of it all is that we have plenty of choices on lead and lead-free bullets. I stopped caring about bullet weight retention and pass-through over 20 years ago. If it is a pass-through, there would be no bullet to measure weight retention. I now prefer fragmenting bullets due to the internal damage it causes from massive energy transfer at POI, but not all bullets are created equal. I, too, am a meat hunter, and in 20+ years of using fragmenting bullets, meat damage is minimal, and I have not lost any game.
I like bullets that dump all their energy on impact and do not need a pass-through to be effective. This is one of the reasons I transitioned to this type of bullet; it reduces the risk of shooting what is behind the target. This is my personal choice/preference, and I am in no way trying to convince anyone to do the same. I have a video example of such an incident. It was posted on the Internet, but it was taken down. However, others have made a copy of it.
Choices, choices, choices ...
epoletna
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Elk868: I'm interested in your analysis that your shot hit a stone. My thinking, without having it to look at directly, is that it likely passed through some muscle, which accounts for the mushroom shown in the second shot, then hit a heavy bone. I cannot account for it not having stayed in the animal unless the bone was very near the surface. Nor can I explain why it would have emerged from the animal. But the mushrooming looks to me as if it passed through something that caused it to spread before it hit something solid and stopped.
hy epoletna
the reason why i thinked this was because no blood bones or else on this place as well as there was no hair blood or else on bullet . and its was also the idea of my guide wich is way more experienced in tracking then me . aswell he followed bear tracks for a time and also didn t find any blood , so he came to same result then me .
no sign of wound or hit on animal,maybe it hit a branch or else before hit stone .
epoletna
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Elk868:
It sounds to me as if your guide was satisfied with the explanation that it hit a stone, and he has a lot more experience than I do, so I will not dispute your conclusion that it hit stone.
It sounds to me as if your guide was satisfied with the explanation that it hit a stone, and he has a lot more experience than I do, so I will not dispute your conclusion that it hit stone.
me neither but can you imagine how much luck it is to find your own bullet back fired in the bush ???
epoletna
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That surprised me too!
This is correct
Rick Richard
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We all rave about our favorite bullet when we look down on the ground and have that animal we just shot. BUT, cuss them when we see that animal get away…when most of the time it is due to us making that bad shot. Just saying.
Bang4theBuck
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I have to plug the Hammer products. Ive fed them through :
22 CM
22-250
6x284
6.5 CM
270 WBY
7mm-08
7mm RM
280 AI
308 Win (3 different weights)
300 WSM (2 different weights)
300 Sav
32 Win Spec
338 Win Mag
35 Whelen (2 different weights)
In every case, the load development was abbreviated by 1/2 as compared to the cup and core bullets. Velocities were well above cup and core billets of similar weight, and whenever Ive had questions, Steve at Hammer was quick to pick up the phone and help out. With the HHT line of bullets, there are pretty darn good BCs on the hunting bullets as well. Easy button for me.
22 CM
22-250
6x284
6.5 CM
270 WBY
7mm-08
7mm RM
280 AI
308 Win (3 different weights)
300 WSM (2 different weights)
300 Sav
32 Win Spec
338 Win Mag
35 Whelen (2 different weights)
In every case, the load development was abbreviated by 1/2 as compared to the cup and core bullets. Velocities were well above cup and core billets of similar weight, and whenever Ive had questions, Steve at Hammer was quick to pick up the phone and help out. With the HHT line of bullets, there are pretty darn good BCs on the hunting bullets as well. Easy button for me.
hehe yeah we say : the crap starts mostly behind the stock
tonechaser88
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Rick Richard
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Certainly the effort to create this list is much more appreciated than this post. Well done sir.
