I have a Bell and Carlson stock sitting around that I plan to swap several rifles in and out of for various purposes. There is a slight imperfection where the back of the recoil lug would mate up, sort of like an overhanging ridge big enough to see and feel so it might not shoot good. I don't want to bed it to one action because several different actions will sit in it. I need to figure out how to fix that mating surface. There is a machine shop right down the road, in case there aren't any simpler DIY options. Any suggestions?
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Bedding Question
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Critter Picker
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In my humble opinion, because of machining tolerances you can't get optimum accuracy using 1 stock for multiple actions. That being said,can you use a small file to remove the imperfection on the stock? Or maybe a piece of sandpaper wrapped around a small scraper? Just a thought.
Just to clarify, it's a Remington 700 long action and I won't be attempting to fit something other than a Remington long action or clones in it.
I could file it possibly, just don't want to make it worse of a problem.
Critter Picker
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If you remove material, just remove enough to get action to slip in.the tighter the fit the better. That's why we bed them. If you plan to use it for multiple actions it can only be as tight as the loosest action,and has to have enough room for the tightest action.
Bucklowery
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File it off it will be fine
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Buck
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Buck
One stock, multiple actions, the closest you can come is to use a straight pillar bed setup where it touches in two places only and there is NO bedding touching anywhere else. Other than that, there is no way to get a perfect stress free bedding job.
One big problem is you are going to have to re-sight the gun every time you change barrelled actions. One stock for many actions seems quite inconvenient, You can buy Boyd's or Bell and Carlson stocks for pretty small money and have a complete, bedded and sighted rifle ready to go.
One big problem is you are going to have to re-sight the gun every time you change barrelled actions. One stock for many actions seems quite inconvenient, You can buy Boyd's or Bell and Carlson stocks for pretty small money and have a complete, bedded and sighted rifle ready to go.
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Rflshootr
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I'd cut the lug surface back .030-.060 and just bed the lug area with whichever action you pick. From there, it is what it is.
Need more info on the imperfection........You might consider a file, an exacto knife, more bedding compound
ntsqd
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If you start with the assumption that all of those actions are actually round, then a simple V block bonded into the stock will be the best option. Have it made such that the front face of the block is the register for the recoil lugs.
The problem is that the assumption is incorrect. The clones may or may not be hand finished, but the Rems are hand finished and not actually round. Some will be close to round, others will be nowhere near round. This inconsistent lack of roundness is why scope mounts fit nicely on some actions and absolutely need to be bedded to other actions.
I'd buy more stocks.
The problem is that the assumption is incorrect. The clones may or may not be hand finished, but the Rems are hand finished and not actually round. Some will be close to round, others will be nowhere near round. This inconsistent lack of roundness is why scope mounts fit nicely on some actions and absolutely need to be bedded to other actions.
I'd buy more stocks.
I've had this issue with a couple of actions. One I created and one was a stock/action issue.
The first one I created, I sent a Savage 10 action off to be lightened. After that it would sit canted in every stock I tried to use, wound up having my GS pillar an Accustock to get the action sitting level and then bed it.
Second was a M700 I put in a Greyboe Trekker stock. Torqued down properly in the stock the the Pic-rail was always canted to the left a few degrees. I did the same thing, paid my GS to install oversized pillars and bed the action square with the stock.
Add a pieces of tape and remove it as needed. I would look at changing out the barrels instead of the entire rifle action and barrel.
Bed the stock so there is relief in every action you want to put in it, then bed the actions to fit the stock. So the bedding material sticks to the action instead of the stock. It will only be a thin coat to even out imperfections. Of course that means if you put that action in another stock you should bed that stock to the bedded action.
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VERY interesting approach, never would of thought of that. Have you actually tried it? In theory it should work. Curious as to how well that would actually work in practice.
Have not tried it, just occurred to be while reading the original post. Issue would be the material used that would stick to the metal of action and stay there under recoil. Definitely would do pillars in the stock.
How about a stock with several different inserts that you bed to actions and those inserts stay with the action?
