Ar10 6.5 creedmore vs bolt gun

[Rudolph Ferdinand]

Looking for advise and opinions. I am looking for a rifle for antelope hunts and to eventually get into shooting 1000yds. But it will primarily be for hunting. As of now I do not reload so I have decided on 6.5 creedmore. I want a relatively light rifle but still capable for long range and bench shooting. I had fully decided on the tikka ctr until I read about the H.R. 7115 (house bill designed to ban building ars and lower parts kits). Kind of want to build one while I can. I know the ar10 will be heavier and it will cost more to build the way I want. Do you think I should go with the tikka or the ar10.

 

[Rudolph Ferdinand]

I have all the bolt guns I wanted but with the popularity of the 6.5 Creedmoor cartridge I set out to build one AR-10. All the parts from Aero Precision including the barrel 20" from Ballistic Advantage (a little on the heavy side). After I built the AR-10, the overall weight was 14 pounds too heavy. I started looking for an alternative barrel and the carbon fiber barrel by BSF purchase and installed. But changing the barrel I created a problem, headspace. Change the BCG to Fail Zero the problem solved the AR-10 100 percent reliable and very accurate. Four different factory ammunition most worked but not Hornady all factory ammunition from them. So, I stayed with what worked; Norma, Sig Elite Performance, and Winchester Match. Winchester, it worked but the best for group size, high SD and ES numbers. Too erratic in velocity.

 

[bbckfh]

OP:

I love both, but I decidedly voted for the Tikka.

I built a lightweight AR-10 (actually DPMS LR-308-pattern) in 6.5 Creedmoor. I love it. It was ringing steel at 871 yds with aplomb, and is making my Snipers jealous a little. It was so accurate it was boring. It's light enough that the heavy Sig Tango6 is noticeable up there.

It's a:
Gibbz side-charging upper, Proof CAMGAS 20" carbon fiber 1:8 tw 6.5cm barrel, JP HP BCG, Midwest Industries low-height rail.
TN Arms polymer lower, Trigger Tech trigger, Magpul MOA K2+ grip and ACS-L stock, JP SCS buffer.

For an AR-pattern rifle, it's very light. But I'd not confuse it with being actually light, nor something I'd want to carry in the mountains. Just because I did carry an AR in 7.62x51 in the mountains once upon a time, doesn't mean that I want to volitionally.

For a rapid-second-shot tool, like a prairie-dog rifle, it'd be great. For a big-game hunting rifle, it's not my first choice. But it was REALLY fun to build, and so satisfying to shoot.

That being said, I'd echo the previous suggestion and perhaps purchase a Tikka CTR for your hunting rifle, plus consider building yourself a 6.5 Grendel for the AR. The AR-15 size has far more standardized components, making plug-and-play easier. The Grendel is plenty for deer or coyotes or prairie dogs, is FAR lighter, and more enjoyable to carry. And for targets/steel it's still plenty to get to 1000.

I love my AR 6.5cm; I LOVE my AR 6.5G.

 

[Rudolph Ferdinand]

OP:

I love both, but I decidedly voted for the Tikka.

I built a lightweight AR-10 (actually DPMS LR-308-pattern) in 6.5 Creedmoor. I love it. It was ringing steel at 871 yds with aplomb, and is making my Snipers jealous a little. It was so accurate it was boring. It's light enough that the heavy Sig Tango6 is noticeable up there.

It's a:
Gibbz side-charging upper, Proof CAMGAS 20" carbon fiber 1:8 tw 6.5cm barrel, JP HP BCG, Midwest Industries low-height rail.
TN Arms polymer lower, Trigger Tech trigger, Magpul MOA K2+ grip and ACS-L stock, JP SCS buffer.

For an AR-pattern rifle, it's very light. But I'd not confuse it with being actually light, nor something I'd want to carry in the mountains. Just because I did carry an AR in 7.62x51 in the mountains once upon a time, doesn't mean that I want to volitionally.

For a rapid-second-shot tool, like a prairie-dog rifle, it'd be great. For a big-game hunting rifle, it's not my first choice. But it was REALLY fun to build, and so satisfying to shoot.

That being said, I'd echo the previous suggestion and perhaps purchase a Tikka CTR for your hunting rifle, plus consider building yourself a 6.5 Grendel for the AR. The AR-15 size has far more standardized components, making plug-and-play easier. The Grendel is plenty for deer or coyotes or prairie dogs, is FAR lighter, and more enjoyable to carry. And for targets/steel it's still plenty to get to 1000.

I love my AR 6.5cm; I LOVE my AR 6.5G.

I have built an AR-15 6.5 Grandel 24" barrel (match). I have the Tikka T-3 .300 WSM. It's very accurate. The AR-10 with the Ballistic Advantage barrel 14 pounds too heavy the reason why I went to carbon fiber barrel reduced to 11 pounds. I would love to hunt Bison with it on a private ranch farm here in Alaska but with another scope to lighten it more.

 

[Travis H]

Hello my suggestion would be to just call up JP Enterprise and talk to Ben. He will set you up with everything you need for a outstanding accurate AR10 in 6.5CM. I ordered all my parts excluding my trigger which is a Giselle 2 stage, my magpul prs butstock, and my matched upper and lower. It came with their 22in barrel and +2in gas tube tied into their adj. gas block.... just talk to Ben he knows what all you need to make it run like a champ. I built mine last year and have put somewhere between 500 and 1000rds through it without 1 single malfunction!!! I got it shooting 120gr ELD-Ms consistently 1/2MOA all the way to 1000yds, and to be honest I know I could shrink that if I took the time! for a gas gun I am super happy with it! I have made hits consistently on steel to 1230yds with the 120s and am developing a load for the 140s now. If I were you I would not be hesitant to go the AR10 route at all. JP has their stuff figured out when it comes to gas guns- accuracy/liability! Now with all my heavy parts Magpul prs stock and Vortex 5-25 gen 2 FFP just to name 2... my rig comes in just at 14lbs! but it makes for an incredible light to no recoiling gun which help accuracy in the long run. hope this help friend.

 

[Rudolph Ferdinand]

Hello my suggestion would be to just call up JP Enterprise and talk to Ben. He will set you up with everything you need for a outstanding accurate AR10 in 6.5CM. I ordered all my parts excluding my trigger which is a Giselle 2 stage, my magpul prs butstock, and my matched upper and lower. It came with their 22in barrel and +2in gas tube tied into their adj. gas block.... just talk to Ben he knows what all you need to make it run like a champ. I built mine last year and have put somewhere between 500 and 1000rds through it without 1 single malfunction!!! I got it shooting 120gr ELD-Ms consistently 1/2MOA all the way to 1000yds, and to be honest I know I could shrink that if I took the time! for a gas gun I am super happy with it! I have made hits consistently on steel to 1230yds with the 120s and am developing a load for the 140s now. If I were you I would not be hesitant to go the AR10 route at all. JP has their stuff figured out when it comes to gas guns- accuracy/liability! Now with all my heavy parts Magpul prs stock and Vortex 5-25 gen 2 FFP just to name 2... my rig comes in just at 14lbs! but it makes for an incredible light to no recoiling gun which help accuracy in the long run. hope this help friend.

It's already built two months. The trigger is a Trigger Tech adjustable and an adjustable gas block. I mounted for scope TRACT Toric 4-20x 50mm FFP. It's going to be about seven months to do more shooting, online school, no time.

 

[ellison3dpro]

OP:

I love both, but I decidedly voted for the Tikka.

I built a lightweight AR-10 (actually DPMS LR-308-pattern) in 6.5 Creedmoor. I love it. It was ringing steel at 871 yds with aplomb, and is making my Snipers jealous a little. It was so accurate it was boring. It's light enough that the heavy Sig Tango6 is noticeable up there.

It's a:
Gibbz side-charging upper, Proof CAMGAS 20" carbon fiber 1:8 tw 6.5cm barrel, JP HP BCG, Midwest Industries low-height rail.
TN Arms polymer lower, Trigger Tech trigger, Magpul MOA K2+ grip and ACS-L stock, JP SCS buffer.

For an AR-pattern rifle, it's very light. But I'd not confuse it with being actually light, nor something I'd want to carry in the mountains. Just because I did carry an AR in 7.62x51 in the mountains once upon a time, doesn't mean that I want to volitionally.

For a rapid-second-shot tool, like a prairie-dog rifle, it'd be great. For a big-game hunting rifle, it's not my first choice. But it was REALLY fun to build, and so satisfying to shoot.

That being said, I'd echo the previous suggestion and perhaps purchase a Tikka CTR for your hunting rifle, plus consider building yourself a 6.5 Grendel for the AR. The AR-15 size has far more standardized components, making plug-and-play easier. The Grendel is plenty for deer or coyotes or prairie dogs, is FAR lighter, and more enjoyable to carry. And for targets/steel it's still plenty to get to 1000.

I love my AR 6.5cm; I LOVE my AR 6.5G.

I built a 6.8spc ar15 for that reason, shoots under .5 moa. I guess I just want a ar10 because I don't have one yet.

 

[338sniper]

I will...eventually. Having a baby is expensive.

Welcome to the club!... just had my 2nd boy..

 

[Bravo 4]

I will...eventually. Having a baby is expensive.

Wait till they get older, it only gets worse.

 

[338sniper]

Wait till they get older, it only gets worse.

I hear that.. my other son is 11. He already has a Gradous 6.5x47L / .308 switch barrel!!!!

 

[Wendet]

Looking for advise and opinions. I am looking for a rifle for antelope hunts and to eventually get into shooting 1000yds. But it will primarily be for hunting. As of now I do not reload so I have decided on 6.5 creedmore. I want a relatively light rifle but still capable for long range and bench shooting. I had fully decided on the tikka ctr until I read about the H.R. 7115 (house bill designed to ban building ars and lower parts kits). Kind of want to build one while I can. I know the ar10 will be heavier and it will cost more to build the way I want. Do you think I should go with the tikka or the ar10.

 

[Wendet]

I have a tikka tac a1 in 6.5 and love it. Little heavy for hunting though. Also have jp ar in308 and is tac driver there is an article comparing jp to custom bolt gun and bolt was better but not by much both in6.5 Creedmoor. I have shot prairie dogs out to 500 yards with the jp 308 so plenty acurate

 

[Rudolph Ferdinand]

AR-15s are fun to build but I wanted something bigger than the 556mm cartridge, so I started looking at the AR-10 in 6.5 CM watching Youtube, here is a guy with an AR-10 in a bolt action. So now, I have a semi-auto and bolt action 6.5 CM, just pull the two pins and change over to what I want to shoot for that day. I am now helping my grandson build his first AR-10 in 6.5 CM.

 

[PApa Black]

It's all a matter of perspective, "IF" your concern is the H.R. 7115 then go with the AR-10 6.5 CM build. Despite the negativity, there are plenty of AR-10 owners capable at 1K+ yards with their set-up.





But "IF" weight and inherent accuracy (by design), then go with the Tikka CTR. With regards to "other" option, there are plenty of choices, especially "IF" your budget allows it.

Good luck!

Well said!