338sniper
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Maybe diamond back & I can make that happen brother!.. I'd cover half, if my man steps up to the plate. Merry Christmas!
Ar10 6.5 creedmore vs bolt gun
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338sniper
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Shooooot... My money is where my mouth is my friend.. You will be happy with a rifle built on that set!... Let's make it a 3 way with his BB barleydog!!! That's only $166.66 each.
Phantom30
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Really! this is about round to round engagement. JPRE allows you to keep you head in the scope so you are your own spotter.
338sniper
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johnlittletree
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In an AR10 it makes perfect sense . I have friends with them and they have not once complained about feeding problems.
In a bolt gun I would not use a 6.5 Creedmore unless I just walked in on a killer deal I could not pass up! The Creedmore does not do anything for me that other cartridges would not do better especially if we are talking hunting! If we add "long range" in front of the word hunting then the Creedmore cartridges do even less for me!
The Creedmore is at it's best when doing what it was specifically designed to do and it was not designed for long range hunting of large game. Obviously it can be used for hunting no problem just depends what you want to kill with it and how far away you plan to shot said critter. I have always that it was silly when people do things like this. No one seems to take the 6mm PPC cartridge hunting in their AR, AK, or SKS, Tikka, Remington 700 etc....The Creedmore line is for High Power and F-Class shooters what the 6mm PPC cartridge is for Bench Rest shooters.
I think it would be fine for Elk sized critter if the shooting is 500m or less. External ballistics don't matter if it is not going to cleanly kill a beast at the range you want to shoot at. I really like my 45-70 for 300m and under but I would not want to try to shoot an Elk at 800m with it. On the other hand W.D.M. Bell killed over 1100 Elephants with a 7mm Mauser with Iron sights at near point blank range.
You should definitely find something with a partion, A-Fram, bonded core etc....All of the really good hunting loads are not VLD with killer BC and the bullets with the best BC are not so hot for hunting larger game at long range. At close range on deer and smaller jacket separation is not that big of a deal.
I put the 6.5 Creedmore in the same category as 243. Great for punching paper, for small stature women and little kids, great for antelope and dear, and for people that have glass shoulders and can not handle a magnum with out getting punished.
Tikkas have a proven track record of accuracy and durability nothing wrong there.
One last thing the 6.5 Creedmore is trendy right now. Just like Germans can not say no to underwear with Alf or David Hasselhoff face on the them a lot of gun owners can not say no to latest craze or trendy cartridge. It hit in 2008 and was lukewarm then by 2011 or 2012 it was the talk of the town! Their has been some issues with factory chambers and factory ammo not matching up well. On top of that Hornady brass has not been holding up well in terms of life cycle.
You might be too young to remember but a few years back when the AR became trendy to own all kinds of wildcats came out to fit and feed from the AR's magazine and work with the limitations of the stock AR15 uppers geometry. For the most part most of those cartridges are worthless to anyone that is not a supporter or that does not need to fit subsonic rounds in an AR platform for use with a can that will still cycle well. In every case if you take away the need to fit it in an AR better cartridges already existed for what ever the mission was.
I would go with a proven winner that has been popular for decades so you know it will not be here today gone tomorrow.
In a bolt gun I would not use a 6.5 Creedmore unless I just walked in on a killer deal I could not pass up! The Creedmore does not do anything for me that other cartridges would not do better especially if we are talking hunting! If we add "long range" in front of the word hunting then the Creedmore cartridges do even less for me!
The Creedmore is at it's best when doing what it was specifically designed to do and it was not designed for long range hunting of large game. Obviously it can be used for hunting no problem just depends what you want to kill with it and how far away you plan to shot said critter. I have always that it was silly when people do things like this. No one seems to take the 6mm PPC cartridge hunting in their AR, AK, or SKS, Tikka, Remington 700 etc....The Creedmore line is for High Power and F-Class shooters what the 6mm PPC cartridge is for Bench Rest shooters.
I think it would be fine for Elk sized critter if the shooting is 500m or less. External ballistics don't matter if it is not going to cleanly kill a beast at the range you want to shoot at. I really like my 45-70 for 300m and under but I would not want to try to shoot an Elk at 800m with it. On the other hand W.D.M. Bell killed over 1100 Elephants with a 7mm Mauser with Iron sights at near point blank range.
You should definitely find something with a partion, A-Fram, bonded core etc....All of the really good hunting loads are not VLD with killer BC and the bullets with the best BC are not so hot for hunting larger game at long range. At close range on deer and smaller jacket separation is not that big of a deal.
I put the 6.5 Creedmore in the same category as 243. Great for punching paper, for small stature women and little kids, great for antelope and dear, and for people that have glass shoulders and can not handle a magnum with out getting punished.
Tikkas have a proven track record of accuracy and durability nothing wrong there.
One last thing the 6.5 Creedmore is trendy right now. Just like Germans can not say no to underwear with Alf or David Hasselhoff face on the them a lot of gun owners can not say no to latest craze or trendy cartridge. It hit in 2008 and was lukewarm then by 2011 or 2012 it was the talk of the town! Their has been some issues with factory chambers and factory ammo not matching up well. On top of that Hornady brass has not been holding up well in terms of life cycle.
You might be too young to remember but a few years back when the AR became trendy to own all kinds of wildcats came out to fit and feed from the AR's magazine and work with the limitations of the stock AR15 uppers geometry. For the most part most of those cartridges are worthless to anyone that is not a supporter or that does not need to fit subsonic rounds in an AR platform for use with a can that will still cycle well. In every case if you take away the need to fit it in an AR better cartridges already existed for what ever the mission was.
I would go with a proven winner that has been popular for decades so you know it will not be here today gone tomorrow.
Phantom30
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CJS-6.5 wrote "Not another Millett!" Why you have a problem with Millett, they are now out of production. ADE has secured their suppliers and is producing a hybrid clone.
It sells for $227. As for barrel jump and reengagement this is a picture out of the Millett training series for range estimation.
It sells for $227. As for barrel jump and reengagement this is a picture out of the Millett training series for range estimation.
Phantom30
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PS for Johnlittletree. Creedmoor is the spelling. And as shown above when the target can shoot back you want to be able to out gun them as best possible and with great rapidity.
TXAoudadKlr
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Mag length restrictions like what's found with ar's 6.5 creed.
Bolt gun with a much longer mag box no brainer 260 Remington.
That's how I viewed it.
Bolt gun with a much longer mag box no brainer 260 Remington.
That's how I viewed it.
Paparock
Previously Rocky W.Latham
Hi, everyone. The 6.5 Creedmoor AR in my humble opinion brings the AR system up to what it should have been all along. I never liked the M16 from its inception being a .22 and I understood the military excuse for using it but I did not and do not accept it. Stoner originally designed the AR system as a 7.62x51mm.
The 6.5 Creedmoor with the best ammo ranges similar to a .300 Win. Mag. and hits as well as penetrates much better than any 5.56x45mm ammo. I have hunted with custom rifles in .30-06 and .375H&H to handle anything I ran across.
Today as I turn 69 I am only looking at the possibility of purchasing a chassis bolt action 6.5 Creedmoor with a NightForce Scope for long-range sniping of coyotes. I lived and hunted in Wyoming for ten years and I miss the mountains there greatly. Now to be near my wife's youngest grand-daughters I'm in the Peoples Republic of California where I get many hard looks for what I ware and carry. This nation is rapidly changing from what it was when our founding fathers set it up and even when I was a boy sadly. I'm am glad I will not live much longer to see what it is going to become. Children are no longer taught real American History in school I know as I subbed in Highschool and looked through their books. It broke my heart to see what they are being taught in its place. All my fellow veterans that have died throughout our wars must be spinning in their graves. Things are changing and NOT for the betterment on our nation. Keep the faith as long as you can my fellow countrymen.
The 6.5 Creedmoor with the best ammo ranges similar to a .300 Win. Mag. and hits as well as penetrates much better than any 5.56x45mm ammo. I have hunted with custom rifles in .30-06 and .375H&H to handle anything I ran across.
Today as I turn 69 I am only looking at the possibility of purchasing a chassis bolt action 6.5 Creedmoor with a NightForce Scope for long-range sniping of coyotes. I lived and hunted in Wyoming for ten years and I miss the mountains there greatly. Now to be near my wife's youngest grand-daughters I'm in the Peoples Republic of California where I get many hard looks for what I ware and carry. This nation is rapidly changing from what it was when our founding fathers set it up and even when I was a boy sadly. I'm am glad I will not live much longer to see what it is going to become. Children are no longer taught real American History in school I know as I subbed in Highschool and looked through their books. It broke my heart to see what they are being taught in its place. All my fellow veterans that have died throughout our wars must be spinning in their graves. Things are changing and NOT for the betterment on our nation. Keep the faith as long as you can my fellow countrymen.
Paparock
Previously Rocky W.Latham
The .338 Lapua Magnum (8.6×70mm or 8.58×70mm) is a great sniper/long-range round if you can shoot it accurately! My old bones just will not take the pounding any more. Enjoy while you can.
bbraden
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Mega Maten LR-308 matched upper and lower.
Proof Research carbon fiber barrel.
Triggertech trigger.
JP Enterprises BCG and bolt head.
Extra long - Rifle length + gas tube.
JP Enterprises hand guard
Hornady factory match ammo - 147's.
With quality parts the LR308 (AR-10) can be extremely accurate (see above). I hunted with it one season and killed a hog, three coyotes, a mulie and a whitetail with it. I ultimately switched back to a bolt rifle cause the large frame AR platform was just too bulky. And awkward when trying to rack a round in quietly. And for most my shots of 100-400 yds, the creedmoor with 147's dropped too much compared to speedier "deer" cartridges like a 243 or 270 WIN.
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