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Anyone using PVA Cayuga bullets?
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codyadams
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Heck ya. I got one more to get, but I'm gonna use the 208 LRHT out of my 30 nosler to test on my cow. Wish I could have got a good sub half MOA load dialed in with the Badlands 205's.....that will be for next year.
On this cow, I was just happy it was only about a 500 yard pack out with only 150 ft elevation gain.....carrying a hide on rear and front quarter was on the heavy side ha ha!
I used the 151 Cayuga in my 7 Max on a couple trips this fall, in the Texas hill country last week and in Montana back in October. I'll cover Texas first:
First one was hit broadside from about 100 yards. Shot was offhand so I put it behind the shoulder to get some margin for error. Caliber size entry, exit maybe double that. Very little blood on the ground but he only made it about 40 yards.
Second one was quartering to, about 100 yards, hit on the shoulder and exited back behind the ribs. Lots of blood on the ground, only made it 20-30 yards.
In the photos below you can see the caliber size entry wound in the shoulder of the second buck. I've got the shoulder pulled down so you can see the damage behind the shoulder. Exit wound was large.
Was able to shoot a few hogs (below). They were broadside shoulder hits and were both dead right there Bonus 'two for one' shot on one of them, got lined up with a piglet on the backside.
Also used the Cayuga on a Montana Whitetail back in October. Shot was about 200 yards. High shoulder and he was dead right there.
The accuracy on the 151 Cayuga's in my 7 Max has been incredible. 1/2 MOA groups or better out to 600 yards. Terminal performance is very good, making contact with the shoulder definitely improves expansion and either delivers an instant bang flop or a suitable blood trail, which so far results in an animal 40 yards or less away.
The only thing I don't like is I'm having to seat them so far out to get this accuracy that I've had several rounds come apart in my pocket or after cycling through the rifle. Other than that, they are outstanding.
First one was hit broadside from about 100 yards. Shot was offhand so I put it behind the shoulder to get some margin for error. Caliber size entry, exit maybe double that. Very little blood on the ground but he only made it about 40 yards.
Second one was quartering to, about 100 yards, hit on the shoulder and exited back behind the ribs. Lots of blood on the ground, only made it 20-30 yards.
In the photos below you can see the caliber size entry wound in the shoulder of the second buck. I've got the shoulder pulled down so you can see the damage behind the shoulder. Exit wound was large.
Was able to shoot a few hogs (below). They were broadside shoulder hits and were both dead right there Bonus 'two for one' shot on one of them, got lined up with a piglet on the backside.
Also used the Cayuga on a Montana Whitetail back in October. Shot was about 200 yards. High shoulder and he was dead right there.
The accuracy on the 151 Cayuga's in my 7 Max has been incredible. 1/2 MOA groups or better out to 600 yards. Terminal performance is very good, making contact with the shoulder definitely improves expansion and either delivers an instant bang flop or a suitable blood trail, which so far results in an animal 40 yards or less away.
The only thing I don't like is I'm having to seat them so far out to get this accuracy that I've had several rounds come apart in my pocket or after cycling through the rifle. Other than that, they are outstanding.
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codyadams
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The advertised G7 bc of .375 on the 170 is attractive. I've got a 24" 1:8 twist. I'm pushing the 151's at 3040 with H1000, assuming the 170's would slow me down about 200 fps, so I entered 2840 in Strelok, gives me a stability factor of 1.53. This seems to be right on the edge of stability. I saw you're running the same twist with a shorter barrel at 2835 fps, are they flying good for you, any evidence of keyholing?
codyadams
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I tried the 170 in my 8.0 twist at 900 feet elevation, unfortunately they were not stable. Keyholing the target at 270 yards.
I tried the 180 Cayuga's about a year ago, they shot reasonably well, but 174 Hammer Hunters were more accurate in my 1- 10" T3X.
What was your load for this one and barrel length. Ive got a 22" and starting load dev.
What powder were you running and barrel length? Im getting ready to start working up a 22" 7 saum ai (very similar to 7max) with the 151s. Thinking to try 4831 and n555
It was a stiff load of rl26 and a 26" 1:8tw proof.
I know it's an old thread but it seems pretty clear to me that the Cayuga is, in fact, tumbling in this photo. The lung on the left looks like a keyholed target.
I imagine that's why they are causing so much damage.
