Roy, Marshall sent me some 165 .277 last week I have loaded up
15 rds with retumbo 69.5, 70 , & 70.5 all seated exactly as my 169.5 wildcats just touching the lands. I was going to shoot today but it's so darn cold here today I decided to see if it might be a tad bit warmer next saturday . these 165's I believe are a match grade non bonded and look to be vary similar to the Berger 150 VLD but a longer bullet 13 caliber ogive I believe you would have to check with Marshall for sure. THey are not the ULD RBBT but a boat tail VLD, it is only about .005 different in total lenth than the last single 169.5 origanal Richerd Graves bullet I have left. Matrix is actually a little longer.
Matrix 165 1.431
wildcat 169.5 1.426 they will vary ofcoarse due to the meplat
the Matrix has a smaller bearing surface, they will be over .700 bc I'm positive.
I do have a friend who is a wildlife office and have already contacted him as to using my gun & the Matrix bullet for some deer control if the oppertunity arises
I to am interestd to see how they perform on game I will let you all know hopefully next Saturday.