Advantage of SilencerCo over Thunderbeast?

[No2psi]

The question was does Silencer Co have an advantage over thunderbeast?
As someone who owns both a Ultra 7 and Silencerco Omega. The only advantage the Silencerco has is that you can buy direct thread adapters to fit different thread pitches including weird pitches like 1/2x32, which allows to fit it in guns threaded for a Vias brake.
The other advantage is it the brake on the Omega can be removed making it 6 inches.
Which is still one inch longer and still heavier than a Ultra 5.
Every other advantage goes to Thunderbeast.
Repeatability, Security of mounting.
If I could do it all over again, I'll buy an ultra 7 and an ultra 5, for PRS stuff and hunting.

As far as Banish goes it looks like they copied thunderbeast on their conical mounting system.

Might as well buy the original

 

[KY_Windage]

Yeah, yeah, lots of bs, no targets.

 

[No2psi]

Which part is BS?
The part where I answer the original posters question?
Or the part where I say it "looks" like they copied the thunderbeast design?

 

[rustyshackleford]

Which part is BS?
The part where I answer the original posters question?
Or the part where I say it "looks" like they copied the thunderbeast design?

I sent a video of a guy shooting with a TBAC ultra 7 on and off to show POI shift. I think KY Windage is really a CHAZ socialist because facts, evidence, and circumstantial data can't be presented.

 

[WeiserBucks]

He did the exact same thing on another forum under a different user name.

 

[Kimber7man]

10 shots with factory Ammo out of my 6.5 creed with Ultra 7. With a CB mount of all things. Heck I'm not gonna go buy another suppressor. The hole to the right was 3 shot group, which doesn't count...

 

[KY_Windage]

I sent a video of a guy shooting with a TBAC ultra 7 on and off to show POI shift. I think KY Windage is really a CHAZ socialist because facts, evidence, and circumstantial data can't be presented.

The video was of a guy shooting 300-grain bullets. Surprise, surprise, very heavy bullets do not get pushed around much in a can by gas disturbances caused by carbon buildup or weld-stressed metals. And I loved when he blamed a wide shot on the wind. How do we know it was the wind, and not deflection off a chunk of carbon that broke loose? When I go for hundreds of rounds without cleaning and then take my Banish apart I have a lot of chunks of carbon fall out.

I also often take my Banish suppressors off multiple times a session to clean my barrel and never get a POI shift. Big deal.

Your "facts and evidence" are like Adam Schiff's "facts and evidence" that Trump colluded with Russia -- it is completely made up but Schiff's partisans cheer him on and boast about "facts and evidence."

All I know is that I get phenomenal groups with my Banish 223, but the groups degrade after a few hundred rounds without cleaning. Maybe TBAC Ultras are somehow magically immune from that

But I doubt it.

 

[KY_Windage]

10 shots with factory Ammo out of my 6.5 creed with Ultra 7.

At what, 100 yds? So your 10-shot group was about .75 moa?

 

[rustyshackleford]

The video was of a guy shooting 300-grain bullets. Surprise, surprise, very heavy bullets do not get pushed around much in a can by gas disturbances caused by carbon buildup or weld-stressed metals. And I loved when he blamed a wide shot on the wind. How do we know it was the wind, and not deflection off a chunk of carbon that broke loose? When I go for hundreds of rounds without cleaning and then take my Banish apart I have a lot of chunks of carbon fall out.

I also often take my Banish suppressors off multiple times a session to clean my barrel and never get a POI shift. Big deal.

Your "facts and evidence" are like Adam Schiff's "facts and evidence" that Trump colluded with Russia -- it is completely made up but Schiff's partisans cheer him on and boast about "facts and evidence."

All I know is that I get phenomenal groups with my Banish 223, but the groups degrade after a few hundred rounds without cleaning. Maybe TBAC Ultras are somehow magically immune from that

But I doubt it.

In neither video was anyone shooting 300 gr bullets. Being as how both videos were 30 cal suppressors that would've worked exactly once. The first video showed poi shift/suppressed accuracy from a Surefire, Gemtech, and maybe an SAS? The second was the thunderbeast that made a sub MOA multishot group suppressed AND unsuppressed. I've provided irrefutable evidence, others have provided their own testimony, and all you got is "bUt mUh baMniSh iS jUsT aS gUd". Doubt it.

 

[No2psi]

I truly don't understand how after a couple hundred rounds, how you get deflection off carbon chunks. I shot this group double checking my load after changing jugs of powder this Saturday.
Ultra 7 never cleaned. 23.1 grains h4895 75 grain eld 223

 

[KY_Windage]

In neither video was anyone shooting 300 gr bullets. Being as how both videos were 30 cal suppressors that would've worked exactly once. The first video showed poi shift/suppressed accuracy from a Surefire, Gemtech, and maybe an SAS? The second was the thunderbeast that made a sub MOA multishot group suppressed AND unsuppressed. I've provided irrefutable evidence, others have provided their own testimony, and all you got is "bUt mUh baMniSh iS jUsT aS gUd". Doubt it.

Yes, "irrefutable evidence" they will shoot "a sub MOA multishot group." If that is good enough for you, enjoy. "Sub-MOA" is nearly good enough for me. One cherry-picked group tells nothing. If a barrel will not shoot better than .5 MOA for at least four 5-shot groups shot back-to-back on a calm day, I ditch it.

 

[KY_Windage]

I truly don't understand how after a couple hundred rounds, how you get deflection off carbon chunks. I shot this group double checking my load after changing jugs of powder this Saturday.
Ultra 7 never cleaned. 23.1 grains h4895 75 grain eld 223

Great. How many rounds? What distance? What measurement? On page one I posted a target with four 5-shot groups shot on the same page that averaged .284". Why do I just get cherry-picked groups in response?

Even an inaccurate rifle will put three into the same hole every now and then, and will produce an occasional great 5-shot group. I want to see it make 20 accurate shots before I will believe a setup is accurate.

Remember this 5-shot group at 100 yds I posted on page 1?



Well, I am now giving up on that barrel, going to have it completely re-done. As it is it will produce a great group, maybe even two in a row, but that's it. I got it to shoot F-Class and there if your rifle will not shoot 20 successive rounds at least .5 MOA (allowing for the hot-barrel shift you get halfway through), you are wasting your time.

And yes, some of us shoot F-Class suppressed. That disqualifies your score with NRA but we do not care. We are just there to have fun, and it is stupid rule (we should encouraging the use of suppressors, not discouraging it).

But shooting accurately is more fun than just shooting.

I truly don't understand how after a couple hundred rounds, how you get deflection off carbon chunks.

Me neither. I said I get group degradation after several hundred rounds. And it isn't much. A lot of people would look at the bigger groups and think they were great. But I know what it does clean.

 

[Kimber7man]

At what, 100 yds? So your 10-shot group was about .75 moa?

yes at 100, and as I said, I'm not going to rush out and buy a different suppressor. As always, you only have yourself to make happy.

 

[Snowbird]

I though manufacturers/dealers had to register to peddle their products on this site?