Advantage of SilencerCo over Thunderbeast?

[Vossman5]

Just here for more information to fill my head with. Haven't heard of some brands mentioned.

 

[rustyshackleford]

trying to decide if a SICo's can is better than an Ultra 7. Looking at the tech data the Ultra seems to be the better suppressor.

I bought a Surefire 300 SPS and it took a nose dive. Surefire is taking care of me though and upgrading me to their new TI can. The only other contender in my book is the ultra 7. If I had gotten an outright refund I would've bought the ultra just because it's a known. Any user serviceable can I have seen has had a POI shift ranging from significant to awful. When I first got my suppressor I shot it on 3-4 hosts and never saw more than 3/4 inch shift at 100 and it was repeatable. Usually it was less. The thunderbeast is supposed to be the same way if not better. If POI shift and lightweight are important I'd go with either of those. If you want the ability to use different mount types and on a ton of different hosts and you are going to zero suppressed and stay suppressed an omega or nomad would probably be more to your liking.

 

[waveslayer]

TBAC is superior, Inown Silencer Co, not nearly as nice or accurate as the TBAC. Go Ultra and don't look back. Service for the can is as easy as sending it to them

 

[Sid Post]

I'm not writing this to bash SiCo. I'm trying to justify buying another can since I have access to a discount with them.
I currently have a Ultra 7, which is lighter than all their 30 cal cans. Although SiCo says the Omega is the lightest on the market.
I already have a Hybrid, so I'm covered for over 30 cal.
their new rim fire can looks like a winner.

Often it's a bit like comparing green and red grapes. Is one sweeter? Is one cheaper? Is one prettier? Does one have a better 'social media' campaign?

Is the Omega the lightest? Maybe, maybe not, however, it is certainly light enough for me.

Is one better than the other or just different? For me, the biggest factor was QD mount compatibility. If my Omega is 'beat' by something else at a similar price point and similar weight with similar performance, it isn't by much and I don't really care at this point in my life. Why, my Omega simply works really well for me considering size, weight, suppression, etc. I can run it on my AR-15 when I want a can that doesn't heat up as fast and it doesn't have much blowback too. If I want small, I have a different SiCo can for that. It is also nice to take one can to the range and QD mount it to my 5.56, 300BO, and 308W rifles for the days I don't feel the need to haul a suitcase full of cans to the range.

Thunderbeast has a huge following on this site, especially from long-range and PRS oriented shooters where its 'optimization' works best. That doesn't mean an Omega isn't a good choice.

If I want the smallest and lightest, I can swap the QD mount for direct thread and mount a flat front cap. Then when I put my bolt action back in the case, I QD attach it back to my auto-loader and I'm prepared to smack feral hogs.

 

[BrentM]

My neighbor And several friends use the sico and I have the tbac 7. I've thought about getting 1 but I like the weight of the tbac and it's just a super nice can. They are both nice and I can't see a person going wrong. I have the ba30 brake on several rifles and just spin my can on or use without, they use qd mounts. Only reason I'm likely to stick with tbac is weight otherwise, tough choice, but it would be nice to have both to just gain direct experience

 

[Lakotah]

Nothing worse than a poster asking a question about something specific and some screwball coming on to add his 2 cents about a product nobody asked about.
As far as pictures of targets, that's not proof of anything. Anybody can shoot a target at 20 or 30 yards and get .2 or .3 consistent groups.
Want to impress somebody.
Open your own post, post a live video feed of both shooter and target and then measure with no editing. Then we can talk about the merits of your superior can which most everybody has never heard of.
I've been going to SHOT show for the Last 22 years and I personally have never heard of Banish. For a company that's been in business supposedly 15 years that's a flag.
Sorry to jack the thread, Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

 

[rsbhunter]

Don't have a dog in this fight, yet. Just had the stamp approved (YEA !) should have my TBAC Ultra 9 in a couple days/weeks....but I can tell you that I did ALOT of research on all brands....the one thing that would give me pause on the banish can, is the lack of popularity within the shooting fraternity...AND the 0 reviews on their website...of all models.....0 ! Not that time won't take care of both of those issues, but when I drop +/- $1500.00 all together, I demand some reviews, posts, and video's to help guide me to a proven and dependable product. I am curious why kywindage hasn't posted a review on their website ? If I buy a product I review it as soon as I have used it enough to justify it works, or not. I have to admit, I had never heard of Banish, or saw an article or post with their name til now....maybe in the future I will own one, but I need a lot more than one endorsement to spend the money on an unknown..rsbhunter

 

[Idaho Hunter1]

No dog in this fight but if the goal is lightweight and no POI shift, won't that directly tie to the relative weight of the rifle and the contour of the barrel? Seems like a heavy barrel or a proof sendero would be harder to cause POI on? So how can I determine the answer to the original OP? Trying to understand how this works. Thanks

 

[Buzzsaw]

Have an Omega 30 on my 6.5 Creedmoor

just bought their Switchback Rimfire can for my Volquartsen rifle and pistol

Now I need a Dedicated .223 bolt gun, direct thread suppressor. I dont like switching the 30 back n forth

Love the Omega, no problems so far. I routinely soak it in Royal Purple cleaner/degreaser as per their suggestion. I dont shoot a ton, so The Omega should last my daughgters lifetime.

 

[rsbhunter]

POI will shift at least a little with some, more with other cans. I am not an expert at all, but you can't hang any weight of the end of a barrel and not have some effect. The important part is that the change is consistent.....sounds kinda like a oxymoronic statement, but, as long as the POI is the same every time the can is mounted, the accuracy is predictable. Weight will affect the amount of POI change, but if the can is of high quality, the return to prior POI with the same can should be acceptable. We pay for lightweight, high quality materials, research, advertising, etc.....but word of mouth is free, and people who have great results usually love to talk about them....I would look at the $ to weight ratio, reviews, etc to guide you on which can to buy.....anyone is better than nothing for noise, some are much better for accuracy repeatability...I was shooting a match last month, one shooter was using a TBAC ultra9 on a 6br, and without exaggeration, it sounded like a fast burst of air out of a tube!! Good luck, and you will enjoy the can...rsbhunter

 

[rustyshackleford]

No dog in this fight but if the goal is lightweight and no POI shift, won't that directly tie to the relative weight of the rifle and the contour of the barrel? Seems like a heavy barrel or a proof sendero would be harder to cause POI on? So how can I determine the answer to the original OP? Trying to understand how this works. Thanks

I think the biggest factor is the concentricity of the threads. My 300 SPS caused maybe a 1/2 inch shift on my AR-15 with a medium contour barrel and the can weighs 20 oz. I'd say concentricity, lockup, and then weight are probably the factors and a heavier barrel doesn't hurt but isn't always required for a minimal POI shift

 

[Okanogan]

I can't comment on Silencerco cans. I can't comment on cleaning my rifle suppressor either as I have never done so and have never seen a need to do so. Last time I checked, TBAC recommended not doing so for a rifle application.

I have a .30 cal Ultra 7 that I have perhaps 4000 rounds through it. I have zero complaints or problems with the Ultra 7. I have not run it on a bolt gun yet but all the gas guns that I have tried it on shoot slightly better with the can. My GAP 10 .308 and my Cradock Precision .224 Valkyrie particularly like the can. I have used it on a .300 BO DDM4 PDW pistol with a 7" barrel with subs and it works well but I think I am pushing the recommended limits from TBAC with that application. I recently ordered two more .30 Dominus CB cans to help deal with the hard applications like the PDW. Depending on the range of platforms and applications you want the can for, you might want to also consider the Dominus if you think you might come want to use it for "hard use" (or full auto) applications.

I you're interested in TBAC suppressors, I suggest you look at their FAQ page and the cleaning recommendations. TBAC Ultras are noted for their accuracy so I think you can probably trust their recommendation regarding cleaning and its effect on accuracy if that is your primary concern. Beyond the hard use application, the reason I've elected to go with the Dominus for the two cans I have on order it that TBAC says it should give me the same accuracy as the Ultra series as well as slightly better sound reduction. The Dominus is brand new so it would take some looking to find out who has them on order and offers an earlier opportunity for getting one.

 

[J3n]

*tldc*

You're a great troll. I'm sorry I ever engaged with you. Should have known not to based on your previously demonstrated behavior and unwillingness to listen to anything counter to your so highly self-regarded statements. Just because you yourself keep repeating information does not make it true. Show multiple reports/studies/results across multiple people and published reports/reviews/usage and then there can be true discussion. Well, there would be if you were open to hearing the facts & science that contradict your statements instead of you just saying you've never seen it happen. As it is, there is no proven validity to your claims, no matter how many times you repeat them or show you unwillingness to listen to technical analysis.

I'm very sorry you can't grasp the issues or information previously provided to you. But you have proven very well that you belong on the ignore list. Welcome to it.

To OP, sorry your thread was derailed by that joker and I am sorry I fell for his trolling.

 

[usmc45]

OP, TBAC, TBAC, TBAC, I have two or three other brands but if we are talking about weight, hunting and precision i have the 5, 7, and 9 in tbac cans and actually have been hunting with the 5" ultra in 6.5. its plenty quite for the one or two shots you will take hunting and it pulls double duty on a few AR's. Of course the 7" gets the most use but that little 5 is way over looked IMAO. As for the other "expert" on your thread, dont mind him. He's working on getting banned from every forum on the internet.

Good luck in your can search and happy shooting.