6mm Creedmoor first elk hunt

[bultinkle]

The gun you shoot better with will kill better

 

[stazmania]

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How much energy caused this damage?

depends on the projectile, and energy remaining on impact, also was it forward into the neck or rearward into bone and shoulder, was the elks hide wet or dry? was the animal moving or standing still? was the animal well hydrated and rested? did the animal have high blood pressure? Had the animal previously had an understanding of physics and hydraulics?

 

[fseaman]

The .224 Sierra TMK from my 22 Creedmoor creates a 2-liter bottle-sized would channel 12" long in elk at 500 yards at 413 ft/lbs of energy. Bullet construction kills animals, not ft/lbs of energy.

Yup, if every shot were perfect this would be perfect. If you hit a rib or nick the shoulder blade or leg bone, what happens?

"rule of thumb" is not intended for "perfect shots.
MFG minimum velocities are not intended for "perfect shots".

BTW: for you children. "rule of thumb" and MFG minimums AND YOUR 22 ManBun is valid.

but y'all seem to be absolutists or trolls

 

[fseaman]

The gun you shoot better with will kill better

No truer words.

 

[bultinkle]

I hate recoil and love my smaller guns just as much as the next guy but have some respect for the animals your hunting. It really hits a nerve with me seeing all these people using creeds to hunt elk and moose. Yeah it can do it when hit in the right spot but it's still not a quick humane kill like a larger caliber. I hate to say it but I hope game and fish start putting a minimum caliber restriction of 270 for elk and larger game. I've shot close to 30 elk and a 6mm/6.5 don't belong on an elk hunt.

I don't like that you guys are doing it different than me so I want the GOVERNMENT to step in and make more laws and ban it

Just what we freaking need.

 

[Fenix Outdoors]

In case 1, all the energy was transferred to the target.
In case 2, none of the energy was transferred to the target and insufficient interruption of blood flow.

So yes, terminal ballistics is very very important.

- Wrong, it was function of the bullet construction.
- Wrong, it was a function of the bullet construction.
- Who said terminal ballistics wasn't?

Antagonizing people makes them not want to engage, trust, or take you seriously.

Calling competent and intelligent adult men "children" is childish and stupid.

 

[fseaman]

... im so use to and confident in the 6 mm. Your thoughts

The gun you shoot the best is the one you will kill with the best.

 

[fseaman]

- Wrong, it was function of the bullet construction.
- Wrong, it was a function of the bullet construction.
- Who said terminal ballistics wasn't?

Antagonizing people makes them not want to engage, trust, or take you seriously.

Calling competent and intelligent adult men "children" is childish and stupid.

You are funny.

I admitted I was gaming all of you. Did you miss that.

BTW: the best bullet construction going 2fps with 1 PFE isn't going to do chit.

All of it is a system. Construction, actual terminal ballistics, KE transferred, blood vessels damages, organs damaged, CNS impacts. You telling "wrong" excludes all other parameters. You can do that. It's poor logic but OK.

 

[Jon Bischof]

Is this thread really 30 pages of discussion about using 6mm Creedmoor for elk? You can use what you want if it is legal. But don't we have better things to discuss?

 

[fseaman]

These caliber, velocity, chambering type threads always turn into a storm because most look at too few variables including the human variable.

None of us are perfect except me. I'm perfect so everything I say must be obeyed even if I can't see you and I can see you even in your bathroom.

 

[fseaman]

Is this thread really 30 pages of discussion about using 6mm Creedmoor for elk? You can use what you want if it is legal. But don't we have better things to discuss?

That is why I got all silly on those being to serious.

But it always happens dunnit.