6mm Creedmoor first elk hunt

[fseaman]

this explains a lot, can't teach an old dog new tricks

I'm having fun with y'all.

You missed something in the reply.

 

[fseaman]

I think you skipped post #383 while you were typing.

See #386

 

[clark33]

LOL I love it, a 66yr old man s*** posting. Someone get him signed up on Reddit IMMEDIATELY

 

[WeiserBucks]

See #386

How much energy caused this damage?

 

[fseaman]

this explains a lot, can't teach an old dog new tricks

Seriously though. The NEW thing of rating a projectile on minimum FPS to expect acceptable terminal ballistics does not invalidate the old KE rules. In my looking it actually raises the minimum KE.

I'll make some examples after having fun with you kids.

 

[fseaman]

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How much energy caused this damage?

$1.95 worth.

 

[Fenix Outdoors]

Energy is not a wounding mechanism, period, and this has been proven in every wound ballistics lab in actual tissue since the 90's. Ft/lbs of energy tells us nothing about how a bullet damages tissue, it has nothing to do with the shape of the wound, it won't tell you how deep a bullet will penetrate, etc.
Two .338 300 grain bullets, both impacts at 3700 ft/lbs of energy. One travels 4" and makes a 13" wound channel 3" in diameter. The second one penetrates 36" and makes a pencil sized wound channel. Bullet construction kills animals, not ft/lbs of energy.
The .224 Sierra TMK from my 22 Creedmoor creates a 2-liter bottle-sized would channel 12" long in elk at 500 yards at 413 ft/lbs of energy. Bullet construction kills animals, not ft/lbs of energy.

 

[fseaman]

Is it physics or is it guesstimating?

ooh, getting fancy.

 

[WeiserBucks]

$1.95 worth.

ooh, getting fancy.

I'm done taking you seriously.

 

[fseaman]

Two .338 300 grain bullets, both impacts at 3700 ft/lbs of energy. One travels 4" and makes a 13" wound channel 3" in diameter. The second one penetrates 36" and makes a pencil sized wound channel. Bullet construction kills animals, not ft/lbs of energy.

In case 1, all the energy was transferred to the target.
In case 2, none of the energy was transferred to the target and insufficient interruption of blood flow.

So yes, terminal ballistics is very very important.

 

[clark33]

Seriously though. The NEW thing of rating a projectile on minimum FPS to expect acceptable terminal ballistics does not invalidate the old KE rules. In my looking it actually raises the minimum KE.

I'll make some examples after having fun with you kids.

Story time with grandpa, excellent

 

[fseaman]

I'm done taking you seriously.

Good because I wasn't talking to you seriously at all.

 

[fseaman]

Story time with grandpa, excellent

Sorry, no. I don't have patience for wokies.

 

[Ckleeves]

In case 1, all the energy was transferred to the target.
In case 2, none of the energy was transferred to the target and insufficient interruption of blood flow.

So yes, terminal ballistics is very very important.

But they both met the target with the same energy? But that energy did absolutely nothing. The construction of the bullet did everything. You just proved our point. The energy didn't matter.