6.8 western be 6.5prc

[WildRose]

Again Who Cares. Anytime someone speaks about performance, you come back with marketing, niches, obsolescence, market focus, economics, market share, BLA BA BLA BA BLA BA _______ BLA. Who cares
The .277 AND .284 are much closer in size to an all around bullet. There's guides in Alaska that won;t allow 6.5's on there hunts.
What makes the 6.5 SO magical over .277's and .284's, besides all the marketing BULL?

There you go again.... .

Nobody said they are magical. They are however steadily gaining more market share every year while the .277's keep going backwards.

As I said and still remains true, the 6.5's, 7mm's and .30's are going to own the market in this century because the .277's simply don't offer enough of a difference in performance over the 6.5's and the 7's and 30's eat them alive Ballistically.

There is and will remain a much better selection of both factory ammo and components for them as well because again, that's where the market is.

That doesn't mean the 270's are going to cease working for those who have them, there's just going to continue being much better access to ammo, components, and rifles chambered in the others.

 

[WildRose]

I have 4 270win the rifleman's rifle they are great 2 in pre 64 win Fn Belgium 1909 argentine they are all shooters . I love my 6.5s and my 7mm s and 30 cals . Quarter bores etc . Now let's get realistic .007 difference in bullet diameter from 277 too 284 is not ever going too make the 277 more popular than the 7mm bullet offerings look all the 7 mm bullet offerings . The 270 is too close too the 7mm too change anything.The 270 is what it is you may get a few more offerings as time goes by but that's going too be it .The 6.5s ,7mm s 30 cals 33 cals are here too stay with more bullet offerings years too come.

Well said. To me for a new shooter those are the key considerations.

If I wanted to buy "the Right Gun" for a grandkid or other youngster I would want it to be one they can shoot for a lifetime without having to worry about hard to find, overpriced, limited availability ammo for an obsolete round in ten, twenty, thirty years or more.

As you well know I have a long love affair with several "obsolete" rounds and recognize the challenges they pose.

Not everyone wants or has the time to learn to reload their own so what they can count on finding on the shelves locally or online makes a big difference.

For my taste the PRC is lacking a bit in velocity but then I've been shooting the 264wm for decades and my wildcat 6.5's off of much bigger cases and although I have to admit my lowly 260's will more than get the job done out to 600yds, and especially at sub 400yd ranges I'm still a bit of a speed freak.

140's moving at 3400-3600FPS are just a big turn on for me!

 

[Deleted member 109523]

There you go again.... .

Nobody said they are magical. They are however steadily gaining more market share every year while the .277's keep going backwards.

As I said and still remains true, the 6.5's, 7mm's and .30's are going to own the market in this century because the .277's simply don't offer enough of a difference in performance over the 6.5's and the 7's and 30's eat them alive Ballistically.

There is and will remain a much better selection of both factory ammo and components for them as well because again, that's where the market is.

That doesn't mean the 270's are going to cease working for those who have them, there's just going to continue being much better access to ammo, components, and rifles chambered in the others.

LOL!!!! you didn't even read my post. I said, without all the marketing bull But boy, you couldn't help yourself. Your like my ex wife. Impossible to reason with. I should of gave up yesterday when you realized you knew it all.

 

[WildRose]

LOL!!!! you didn't even read my post. I said, without all the marketing bull But boy, you couldn't help yourself. Your like my ex wife. Impossible to reason with. I should of gave up yesterday when you realized you knew it all.

You should have given up before you started, it would have been less embarrassing for you.

You asked the question and I responded.

What makes the 6.5 SO magical over .277's and .284's, besides all the marketing BULL?

Nobody here is attributing any magical properties to the 6.5's.

 

[Deleted member 109523]

Nobody said they are magical. They are however steadily gaining more market share every year while the .277's keep going backwards.

As I said and still remains true, the 6.5's, 7mm's and .30's are going to own the market in this century because the .277's simply don't offer enough of a difference in performance over the 6.5's and the 7's and 30's eat them alive Ballistically.

There is and will remain a much better selection of both factory ammo and components for them as well because again, that's where the market is.

That doesn't mean the 270's are going to cease working for those who have them, there's just going to continue being much better access to ammo, components, and rifles chambered in the others.

There's your reply. nothing but marketing bull. Nothing about performance whatsoever

 

[WildRose]

There's your reply. nothing but marketing bull. Nothing about performance whatsoever

The articles we've already posted address the performance issues.

Again, nobody is saying it out performs the 270 so you're really working hard to have an argument nobody else is making.

 

[Deleted member 109523]

The articles we've already posted address the performance issues.

Again, nobody is saying it out performs the 270 so you're really working hard to have an argument nobody else is making.

still dodged it

 

[Deleted member 109523]

It's been fun Thanks

 

[WildRose]

still dodged it

I'm dodging nothing. The .277 bullets don't offer enough of an improvement in ballistics to make a difference and again, the 7's and 30's then eat the .277's alive.

Again, it's filling a very tight niche between the 6.5's and 7mm's without any significant improvement over the 6.5's in performance to matter.

Again, that's why it continues losing market share to the 6.5's and 7mm's.

 

[Rosebud]

I'm dodging nothing. The .277 bullets don't offer enough of an improvement in ballistics to make a difference and again, the 7's and 30's then eat the .277's alive.

Again, it's filling a very tight niche between the 6.5's and 7mm's without any significant improvement over the 6.5's in performance to matter.

Again, that's why it continues losing market share to the 6.5's and 7mm's.

I think I know why he has an ex-wife.

 

[WildRose]

I think I know why he has an ex-wife.

Trust me, passing on that one was hard... .

 

[Hard rock]

I'm dodging nothing. The .277 bullets don't offer enough of an improvement in ballistics to make a difference and again, the 7's and 30's then eat the .277's alive.

Again, it's filling a very tight niche between the 6.5's and 7mm's without any significant improvement over the 6.5's in performance to matter.

Again, that's why it continues losing market share to the 6.5's and 7mm's.

In all honesty there really is something magical about a 6.5 bullet .Ha

 

[TXTrained]

This.

I definitely would not count on the the 6.8 Western to be around a decade from now as anything but a niche/boutique round.

For medium game the 6.5's and .30's will own the market in this century.

Agreed. The 6.5's will be around. The 30 Cals will be around.. But the 6.8 Western & the hopeful might be..LOL And Might Be is better bet on a...Mites are on a Chickens ***...LOL and Id not bet on it being here long term..There were a few boxes of it that are still sitting there,. Its most likely not going to make it in main stream shooting in term unless something changes. ..I think it is a real nice round for Deer and maybe for about a 400 lb Bear like in TN.
So with that said..I love a 270 Win . 130gr Silver Tip is my favorite one.. But from 6 weeks or so before Deer Season opens and until now only a few boxes about,4 boxes, came thru Academy in Lake Jackson TX..and many a person came thru looking for a box of 270 Win. . More than what they had. But the 270 Win. is here to stay but not in abundance. ..They really only sell at Deer Season. The 6.5 Creedmoor out sells anything in Large Calibers.. It Even beats the 308 Win. which used to be the Big Selling Dog... the small 22 LR and 223 Rem /5.56 outsells anything.. It all revolves around Supply & Demand. And 270 Win. is pretty much a seasonal Cartridge.

 

[coop2564]

Because nobody is buying it.

I am pretty sure it's going to go the way of the 6.8SPC.

It was the number 1 selling gun caliber in 2021. Its here to stay.