WildRose
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Yes and that's what we're discussing.Did you mean to quote my post? I wasn't making a comparison of terminal performance
Yes and that's what we're discussing.Did you mean to quote my post? I wasn't making a comparison of terminal performance
At what estimated impact velocity or distance? The ELD match bullets are too soft for me for elk. Maybe ok at slow velocities but a 225 ELD match really came apart on the front shoulder of an elk at 200 yards, didn't exit a DRT cow elk in the heart at 200 yards, and didn't exit the back of the head/base of skull/C1 vertebral body at 600 yards. Just too soft for me.I watched a friend of mine take a big aoudad out of palo duro canyon with the eldms. No elk but still a stout animal. He was quartering to us hard, the bullet punched through 3/4 of the body length and exited the front of his hind quarter.
Inside 500 yards I love a scirocco III guess I should also note in my personal rifles I'm running hammer hunters, absolute hammers, and partitions, depending on application. With the exception of a 308, it gets the old 168 a max.
Interesting comment. I gave them a try on 3 elk before I knew I wanted something tougher. 225 ELD match on deer or antelope is probably ok. But not on elk. I prefer and ELD-X or similar. Scirocco if they could buck the wind drift a bit better. For inside 500 scirocco all the way."ELD m's are not a hunting bullet that is unethical and totally wrong have a nice day"
I don't hunt with ELD-Ms, so I don't have dog in the fight. That said, what I've experienced, learned by quietly reading and by hearing firsthand hunting accounts has lead me to these conclusions:
1. Most hunters who hate ELD-Ms inevitably have never seen an ELD-M in action and are basing their opinion totally on internet folklore.
2. Most hunters who hate ELD-Ms seem to actually believe there is such a thing as a perfect bullet, that never fails.
3. Most hunters who hate ELD-Ms have no understanding of what kind of role serendipity plays in mankind's success.
Serendipity:
(sĕr′ən-dĭp′ĭ-tē)
n. pl. ser·en·dip·i·ties
1. The faculty of making fortunate discoveries by accident.
Sometimes things do what they are not supposed to do.
I like those too, but man they are picky. I haven't been able to get them to shoot under 1MOA in any of my 6.5's.I would rather throw the 130gr Sirocco II
I killed a large whitetail last week in OK at 170 yards with a Berger 156 EOL. Absolutely jellified the front of his lungs and severed the aorta from the heart. Why would you not want to use a round that works great from short range and long range?To the OP @djprice91
As the Berger and Hornady are clearly designed for longer shots past 500 yds where they can take advantage of their high BC, I'm not saying they wouldn't perform at close range but it would make a better apples to apples comparison.
That's too bad. I must have gotten lucky with my 300 WSM. I was easily getting 1/2 MOA with the 180 grain bullets and terminal performance was perfect. I switched last year to the 212 ELD-X after miscalling the wind drift in a 15-20 MPH wind at 600 yards. Hit a broadside deer in the butt. Luckily he spun a 180 so I simply aimed at the butt and double lunged him. If I wasn't an Idaho mountain hunter shooting at 400-700 yards regularly I would have just continued with that bullet for the life of the gun.I like those too, but man they are picky. I haven't been able to get them to shoot under 1MOA in any of my 6.5's.