yogibearmech
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Which groups would that be?
I haven't seen this in my area?
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3800fps
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Thems some hefty allegations, Sport….no one is pushing anyone and no one is annoyed with new shooters….
The most experienced among us are mostly mocking "marketing hype", internet expertise and BullSplatter when it lands anywhere near us…
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Here's how I see the 6.5cm bashing for a new guy. Guy decides to get into shooting/hunting, saves up some money and goes to Cabelas, Sportsmans, Scheels wherever and most of what he sees and is sold on are 6.5cm's. He buys one and is all excited, gets home and does an internet search to learn a little more about his new rifle only to find out he might as well shoot a sling shot at game and go buy skinny jeans and start drinking bud light and for pete's sake better not show up to a range with his new rifle unless he's wearing a pride shirt to go with it.
Edit to add - I don't have a 6.5cm, my 6.5 is a 6.5-06 and it's my son's rifle. I do have a 22cm but I don't think that one requires bud light and rainbows, lol
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3800fps
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….yeah maybe slightly better mouse trap…but stretch that 270 out some day and you'll find it catches mice just about as well.
BREAKING:
Hornady is set to introduce the 243 TayTay. It a 300 RUM necked down to .243. It's all legs and no butt. It will only be available on line at select times. Expect to pay 35.00 per round plus sellers fee.
Go might 6.5 CM go....may all the rifles in my local store's rifle racks be filled with your kind.
Hornady is set to introduce the 243 TayTay. It a 300 RUM necked down to .243. It's all legs and no butt. It will only be available on line at select times. Expect to pay 35.00 per round plus sellers fee.
Go might 6.5 CM go....may all the rifles in my local store's rifle racks be filled with your kind.
Just ran my StreLok Pro for my 270 and 6.5C out to 1000 yards. The Creed drops 304 inches at 1000y with 1537fps and the 270 drops 284 inches with 1518fps at 1000y. This is with the Hornady Precision Hunter ELD-X ammo and the same length barrel at 24". So very much like for like comparison, not seeing how the Creed is "Superior" out to 1000y. Well the Creed has 3.4 MOA wind correction per 5mph and the 270 3.9 so .4MOA better which does not quite rate "Superior", slightly better would be the proper description. A more apt description would be that the 270 with 200fps more at the muzzle will delivers a lot harder hit out to 300-400 yards then become equalized to 1000yds. Actually makes the Creed look ok when compared to a much storied older cartridge.
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I see young new guy…. Interested in shooting/hunting spends 6 to 11 hrs a day scrolling on smartphone watching every video on YouTube, TikTok and instagram….soon believes 6.5Creedmoor is the only cartridge that can actually hit any target but even does so several zipcodes away…goes to aforementioned gun stores then range and quickly learns 200yds is way tf out there and can't even see the adjoining zip code.
New shooter finds himself amongst straight self-reliant males who have killed things and know so many things about wind, spindrift, mirage, bag technique etc….new shooter either learns or leaves for the nearest nonbinary wetbar for a budlight
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yogibearmech
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You mean he went to those stores and was sold one by a teenager that doesn't know the difference between free floated and headspace. The sales person convinced him it would take down the big 5 in Africa. If he does come home and google it I can promise you this forum will be at least 3 pages in if not more. WAY more Outdoor life and other magazines that they will reach before this. But if he does reach this first TIGHTEN your man bun before you head to the range
Sorry that you feel that way but we are having fun
Only 30 pages so far? SLACKERS!!!
The 6.5 CM (Hornady's ELD-X) is a 143 gr bullet traveling at around 2630ish fps out of a 22-24" barrel. It's about like 20+ other rounds I can name that do about the same thing at 0-200 yards
I don't know if Steve was dumb lucky or evil genius but he hit a cord with the American public's fascination with single person marksmanship and snipers. The 6.5 CM doesn't start to do anything real special until after 600 yards and which point the longer better BC bullets start to pull away from some of the older standards. I could care less about drop. But it does manage drift well.
Most people don't shoot that often. Most don't have ranges over 200 yards to practice at (let alone 1000 yard). Most don't go hunting. The few that do don't shoot anything for 'reasons'. Those very few, that do harvest game, do so at ranges under 200 yards. Nothing the 6.5 CM marketing is selling is needed to cover the prior 5 sentences. But the American public's need to fantasize about 'Enemy at the Gate Part II - Deer Season in the Kickapoo' seems to be making this a very popular round.
The stroke of genius was being able to get anyone who manufactured a rifle, from the $399 package special to the $3999 custom rifle, to chamber it in 6.5 CM. All it took was the gun rags to proclaim it a long distance death pill. Add in a few long range internet video kills on animals nobody should be using 143 gr 2630ish fps rounds on and we have threads like this.
It's a great round, that can be found in any store that carries ammo. It's very light on recoil. Responds well to suppressers. If I have a 'beef' with it, it's that the 143 gr factory load would be better served for the 200 yard and under crowd, if it was a 120-130 grain bullet traveling 150ish fps faster.
I have taken quite a few different species with it at nothing over 300 yards. It's 'ok', but it's not devastating by any means.
If I was a first time deer hunter, getting my first rifle, I'd probably choose one. Why not?
I don't know if Steve was dumb lucky or evil genius but he hit a cord with the American public's fascination with single person marksmanship and snipers. The 6.5 CM doesn't start to do anything real special until after 600 yards and which point the longer better BC bullets start to pull away from some of the older standards. I could care less about drop. But it does manage drift well.
Most people don't shoot that often. Most don't have ranges over 200 yards to practice at (let alone 1000 yard). Most don't go hunting. The few that do don't shoot anything for 'reasons'. Those very few, that do harvest game, do so at ranges under 200 yards. Nothing the 6.5 CM marketing is selling is needed to cover the prior 5 sentences. But the American public's need to fantasize about 'Enemy at the Gate Part II - Deer Season in the Kickapoo' seems to be making this a very popular round.
The stroke of genius was being able to get anyone who manufactured a rifle, from the $399 package special to the $3999 custom rifle, to chamber it in 6.5 CM. All it took was the gun rags to proclaim it a long distance death pill. Add in a few long range internet video kills on animals nobody should be using 143 gr 2630ish fps rounds on and we have threads like this.
It's a great round, that can be found in any store that carries ammo. It's very light on recoil. Responds well to suppressers. If I have a 'beef' with it, it's that the 143 gr factory load would be better served for the 200 yard and under crowd, if it was a 120-130 grain bullet traveling 150ish fps faster.
I have taken quite a few different species with it at nothing over 300 yards. It's 'ok', but it's not devastating by any means.
If I was a first time deer hunter, getting my first rifle, I'd probably choose one. Why not?
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3800fps
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What could be more intellectually stimulating than 30 pages of circular jerkery bloviating about a marketing phenomenon turned cult.
Anybody wanna talk Glock instead?
yogibearmech
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Which one???
How about Sherman's and advertised velocities
Because most 6.5cm supporters also drive BMWs....along with their skinny jeans while going thru Starbucks.
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