6.5 Creedmoor or 25-06 for Deer

[Michael O'Connor]

I know with my 257 weatherby at 500 yards and no wind I hold the 3rd crosshair on the heart and squeeze the trigger deer drop in sight

Barrell burner, I will never own a Weatherby. Sorry.

 

[Michael O'Connor]

Or take a 243 rem case necked up. Oh wait, done long befor the creed came along

30° 243 Design is proficient, 243 Win. is not efficient. 6mm Creedmoor is efficient

 

[257Tony]

At the end of the day this is kind of a moot point as far as deer hunting is concerned, unless you are really trying to reach way out there. To me, these are both 500 yard hunting cartridges, and either will kill any Deer out there at that range.

I've killed many animals from big bodied Muley bucks to Cow Elk with a 257 Roy, using various bullets from 100 gr Nosler BT at 3780, to 115 TSX at 3450, they are all dead. I also killed the biggest bodied Buck I've ever seen with a 6.5 CM and a 123 Amax, neck shot=DRT.

Pick whichever you like, and have some fun finding that magic load!

 

[Michael O'Connor]

Barrell burner, I will never own a Weatherby. Sorry.

No Roy for me, I do like accurate rifles though. F-Roy.

 

[Canhunter35]

At the end of the day this is kind of a moot point as far as deer hunting is concerned, unless you are really trying to reach way out there. To me, these are both 500 yard hunting cartridges, and either will kill any Deer out there at that range.

I've killed many animals from big bodied Muley bucks to Cow Elk with a 257 Roy, using various bullets from 100 gr Nosler BT at 3780, to 115 TSX at 3450, they are all dead. I also killed the biggest bodied Buck I've ever seen with a 6.5 CM and a 123 Amax, neck shot=DRT.

Pick whichever you like, and have some fun finding that magic load!

I agree, last deer I shot was with my 308. Worked great! It's the one on my avatar. Ballistically it takes a back seat to most everything. Lol

 

[Barrelnut]

I would just forget the 25-06 and the the 6.5 CM. Make it a 6.5 PRC and all of arguments above become a mute point. The 6.5 PRC is gonna be popular.

 

[Buck Buster]

A 308 Norma Magnum is more like a 300 Win Mag. The 300 Norma Magnum is a Shortened Lapua or Rigby case. It may have 200-300 fps more velocity than the aforementioned cartridges dependant upon bullet weight. 300 Norma Magnum rivals the 300 RUM and 30 Nosler in a stronger cartridge case. That is why the Military adopted it for a sniper rifle. It shares commonality with the 416 Rigby based 338 Lapua Magnum. It is just a shorter, and very efficient case.

I agree and have noticed that most of the 300 magnums are close to one another. The ultra mag. is impressive, if you have enough A&& or a good muzzle break on it to shoot it, or have it a heavy bench gun. I have not seen the ultra mags. perform at 1000 yards but they should be very good.

 

[Aoudad shooter1975]

This guy died from a 25-06 don't know how... Ahhh...it's not a deer that's why....

 

[Buck Buster]

I would just forget the 25-06 and the the 6.5 CM. Make it a 6.5 PRC and all of arguments above become a mute point. The 6.5 PRC is gonna be popular.

They are all good guns when it comes right down to it. Its like vehicles everybody has there own opinion as to what is best or what they need to have in one. A factory gun right out of the box that shoots as good as the 6.5 Creedmoor has been noted to do would be a very cost efficient and accurate gun that I don't think you could go wrong with for most practical yardage shots. I would like to have one myself, I have never shot one before, but would not expect them to shoot like a magnum. Good luck hunting and be safe.

 

[Buck Buster]

The rebated boat tail would give better barrel life as it spreads a flame against a common force instead of an angular burn. The rebated boat tail is the saving of barrels between a common boat tail bullet and a flat bullet.

What is the dif. between say a Hornady 30 cal. 178gr BT and a 178gr rebated BT ? What design difference is there ? I haven't left the house for a couple of days and haven't heard of a rebated boat tail. Thanks in advance. Anything that would extend barrel life without taking away from accuracy would be welcomed. Thanks again.

 

[MudRunner2005]

I would just forget the 25-06 and the the 6.5 CM. Make it a 6.5 PRC and all of arguments above become a mute point. The 6.5 PRC is gonna be popular.

Yeah, only because Hornady is going to pimp it out harder than a $2 whore, and pay everyone who reviews it to say it's the best thing since sliced bread, like they did the 6.5CM...

 

[Buck Buster]

Again what is the 6.5 PRC ? Another 6.5 I guess; Another question, Are these new 6.5s out shooting the 6.5 - 300s ? I cant hardly imagine so, they shot really well in no wind to very little wind at the 1000 yard competitions I saw them at.

 

[MudRunner2005]

Again what is the 6.5 PRC ? Another 6.5 I guess; Another question, Are these new 6.5s out shooting the 6.5 - 300s ? I cant hardly imagine so, they shot really well in no wind to very little wind at the 1000 yard competitions I saw them at.

To put it honestly and in layman's terms... It's Hornady's ripoff of the 6.5 SAUM.

As to are they out-shooting anything? No, Hornady just has a hell of a marketing department, along with the fact that none of these new shooters out there know what the cartridges are that Hornady keeps ripping off and calling their own. Makes you wonder what's next? They going to ripoff the .30-06 and call it something fancy?

Just like the people who jumped on and bought into the 6.5 GAP 4s bandwagon and it's nothing more than a 6.5 SAUM with different throat dimensions.

There's 20 different ways this cat has already been skinned over the years, but because Hornady has a knack for ripping things off, slightly changing them, churching things up, give them a fancy recognizable name, they could sell a bag of ice to an eskimo...

I'm not hating on Hornady. I'm more or less frustrated with how dumb society is to buy into these trends.

 

[Pdvdh]

The rebated boat tail would give better barrel life as it spreads a flame against a common force instead of an angular burn. The rebated boat tail is the saving of barrels between a common boat tail bullet and a flat bullet.

A reduction in BC value for possibly longer barrel life. I don't shoot enough to wear out barrels. Barrel life will be more affected by other factors, IMO.

My question is, who's spent the time to document improved bore life by wearing out multiple barrels with a rebated boat tail bullet, and then with a standard boat tail? Can you provide reference material to support longer barrel life? There are a lot of variables that affect barrel life, and I expect rebated boat tail design is near the bottom of the list of affecting factors. Is this based on your own experience, or some formal scientific studies that you can provide references to???