5RGenII disappointment in quality control

[MudRunner2005]

I agree with the above statement, unless it's an older one. I'm done buying REM after the still ongoing debacle with an sps 7 mag I bought, can't imagine dealing with things after buying something like you have! I'm sorry you're having issues with it man, good luck!

Try a $2000 Weatherby with a bum barrel from the factory... Happened to me.

Personally, and this is just me, I'd rather take my chances on a $550 SPS and blueprint, slap a new stock, aftermarket barrel, and trigger on it, and be done with it for around the same price, or less. Then you have a nearly guaranteed shooter, and if not, the barrel will be warrantied by the manufacturer.

 

[7mmShooter]

Try a $2000 Weatherby with a bum barrel from the factory... Happened to me.

Personally, and this is just me, I'd rather take my chances on a $550 SPS and blueprint, slap a new stock, aftermarket barrel, and trigger on it, and be done with it for around the same price, or less. Then you have a nearly guaranteed shooter, and if not, the barrel will be warrantied by the manufacturer.

Yeah, I forgot about that one.... I agree with you there, it would be a better route! Just sucks when it's your only rifle and you don't have the funds to fix it up right as you have stated, ya know what I mean?. Anyway, have a great night guys!!

 

[Swamplord]

Didn't get the memo ?

I thought everyone knew that Remingtons are shipped with extra packing and temp materials that have to be thrown away after unboxing, dealers also use the temp materials (barrel, stock, trigger) for display purposes, so it looks like a rifle in the showroom !

Stick a Bartlein barrel on it and cut a new chamber and you're ready for serious business with no need for the myth/old wives tale of "breaking in"

you'll spend $$ and waste time, with aggravation and complaining for months but when't it's finally over you are still stuck with temp packing material fixed to your action .....

 

[Trickymissfit]

I know three guys that bought five Remington 700 PSS (or something like that) in .308.
Park was the first to shoot one, and I saw the 3/8th's groups it shot (five shots each on five different targets). I was quite impressed to say the least. I don't think he actually shot the second rifle, but could be wrong. His personal interest was with an HK 91 in .308, and was getting groups a little under .60" out of it. Dave just bought one rifle, and it was a rock solid 3" rifle at 100 yards. He had the action trued (it was out by about .015"), and reinstalled the barrel with some slight bedding work. Now he had a rifle that shot 1.75" to 2" groups. He has the barrel scoped and slugged. Ended up with a tomato stake. He gets an Obermeyer barrel with Boot's chamber & throat, but not chambered by Boots. He's now got a honest half inch rifle, but also has about $1500 in the rifle. Still Dave's happy, and that's what matters. The third guy was really interesting! His .308 wouldn't shoot a lick (actually neither one would). Elmer was using ammo put together with RCBS dies, and was for sure better than either rifle. Friends told him it was the dies he was using. He asked me about buying a new die set, and I told him to buy the Forster .308NM set. He buys Redding (another story in itself). He sends one rifle to a former site sponsor. Came back with a new barrel and a trued an bedded action. Shot two inch groups! Fred Sinclair puts in contact with Ron Pence, and from there it got real ugly. The A.M. barrel was junk, and their chamber was worse than the OEM! Ron installs one of his barrels, and chambers it with his own reamer design. Rebedded the recoil lug again and a couple other critical spots. Boom the rifle is shooting .400" groups! Not once in awhile but everytime. He then trucks the other rifle up there and has him install a 6BR barrel (Pence cut it), trues the action with a complete bed job. .350" first time out. Wow! Was I impressed!

Just goes to show you that sometimes you get a good one, and sometimes you get junk.
gary

 

[MudRunner2005]

I know three guys that bought five Remington 700 PSS (or something like that) in .308.
Park was the first to shoot one, and I saw the 3/8th's groups it shot (five shots each on five different targets). I was quite impressed to say the least. I don't think he actually shot the second rifle, but could be wrong. His personal interest was with an HK 91 in .308, and was getting groups a little under .60" out of it. Dave just bought one rifle, and it was a rock solid 3" rifle at 100 yards. He had the action trued (it was out by about .015"), and reinstalled the barrel with some slight bedding work. Now he had a rifle that shot 1.75" to 2" groups. He has the barrel scoped and slugged. Ended up with a tomato stake. He gets an Obermeyer barrel with Boot's chamber & throat, but not chambered by Boots. He's now got a honest half inch rifle, but also has about $1500 in the rifle. Still Dave's happy, and that's what matters. The third guy was really interesting! His .308 wouldn't shoot a lick (actually neither one would). Elmer was using ammo put together with RCBS dies, and was for sure better than either rifle. Friends told him it was the dies he was using. He asked me about buying a new die set, and I told him to buy the Forster .308NM set. He buys Redding (another story in itself). He sends one rifle to a former site sponsor. Came back with a new barrel and a trued an bedded action. Shot two inch groups! Fred Sinclair puts in contact with Ron Pence, and from there it got real ugly. The A.M. barrel was junk, and their chamber was worse than the OEM! Ron installs one of his barrels, and chambers it with his own reamer design. Rebedded the recoil lug again and a couple other critical spots. Boom the rifle is shooting .400" groups! Not once in awhile but everytime. He then trucks the other rifle up there and has him install a 6BR barrel (Pence cut it), trues the action with a complete bed job. .350" first time out. Wow! Was I impressed!

Just goes to show you that sometimes you get a good one, and sometimes you get junk.
gary

Yep. That was the whole point of my post. Whatever brand you choose, the factory barrels on Remington, Savage, Weatherby, Howa, Browning, etc... are not guaranteed to be tack-drivers. There will be lemons with anything man-made.

I've even heard of some bad aftermarket barrel blanks having issues that wouldn't shoot...Granted, that is something very rare, compared to a factory barrel. But it can, and does happen on occasion.

 

[rootie3]

From what you described of the package condition upon arrival the marred crown could have happened durring shipping. I've never bought new Rems so am not familiar with the quality control issues some of you write about. My go-to rifle is a '60's Rem 700 7RM
Sounds like I got an older (gooder) model. I hope things work out for you

Larry

 

[FEENIX]

Didn't get the memo ?

I thought everyone knew that Remingtons are shipped with extra packing and temp materials that have to be thrown away after unboxing, dealers also use the temp materials (barrel, stock, trigger) for display purposes, so it looks like a rifle in the showroom !

Stick a Bartlein barrel on it and cut a new chamber and you're ready for serious business with no need for the myth/old wives tale of "breaking in"

you'll spend $$ and waste time, with aggravation and complaining for months but when't it's finally over you are still stuck with temp packing material fixed to your action .....

gun)

 

[Wrcassell21]

Will break it in and shoot the new barrel first then if anything I have an overpriced action and nice stock lol will let you guys know how it goes.

 

[Swamplord]

Aside from the joking ....... Your smith may be able to do a recessed 11* target crown on it to clean up the dings without cutting into the threads on the surface

 

[MudRunner2005]

Aside from the joking ....... Your smith may be able to do a recessed 11* target crown on it to clean up the dings without cutting into the threads on the surface

Yeah, I suggested that a couple pages back, but nobody ever responded to it... Post #11, and Post #25.

How's the LRH magnums coming along? You ever get them squared away? I haven't seen any updates in a while.

 

[4xforfun]

Just purchased and received a rem 700 5R genii in 300 win. Noticed when I got home that the crown was marred, I am not sure if it extends into the rifling , but it did pass the Qtip test when I inserted a Qtip it did not snag as drug around barrel crown.
Should I send back to Remington , pay local smith, or shoot and see how/if affected?

You bought a new gun at a store and never looked it over at the store before you left?

 

[Swamplord]

Yeah, I suggested that a couple pages back, but nobody ever responded to it... Post #11 .

Yup, post #11 is what I was referring to ....

All my rifles get the 11 degree target crown, even the ones with the break machined into the extra inch of barrel

 

[MudRunner2005]

Yup, post #11 is what I was referring to ....

All my rifles get the 11 degree target crown, even the ones with the break machined into the extra inch of barrel

Mine too. My smith prefers the 11º recessed target crown, so all mine he does get the same treatment. I honestly prefer it as well, because the recessed crown is more shielded and less-likely to get damaged while hunting and transport.

 

[FEENIX]

You bought a new gun at a store and never looked it over at the store before you left?

I wondered about that too.