50 Cals for Hunting Dangerous Game? Real World Experience? Bullets/Loads?

[scope-eye]

That's why God invented Boating accidents.

Dean

 

[skipglo]

Thinking about a 50 for dangerous game. Wondering what your experiences are as a primary weapon. Also be nice to know if it would be a good backup and when to switch to backup? Finally, what bullet/loads do the job?

50 BMG...660 gr APITs .....use as primary...no need for back-up! And if you miss...climb up the barrel and hide!

 

[SDPlinker]

50 BMG...660 gr APITs .....use as primary...no need for back-up!

No "T".
Then they will find you, then you will need a bazooka to back up your .50BMG and the 3rd regiment to back up your bazooka, then the

 

[skipglo]

Grizzly or such, or maybe bison. Can't afford Africa.
Not looking for the biggest .50, just one that will get the job done. Recoil control/followup is a concern as JSHKS pointed out.

Revolver would have to be double action, can't imagine fumbling with a hammer. Disadvantage is they kick more than a semi-auto. Semi-auto would be a Desert Eagle.
Not looking for a rifle or carbine.

Just my HO...Shoot a 50 dessert before you buy one....massive grips not comfortable for anyone with regular size hands, much shorter cartridge so the 50 benefit is lost...

 

[Pro2A]

Not to be a downer but there is something to consider before purchasing anything in .50 cal. Currently there is a bill, HR 127 of the 117th Congress that:

''(dd)(1) It shall be unlawful for any person to possess ammunition that is 0.50 caliber or greater. ..."

That as written will make the 500 S&W illegal to possess. This will come to be law as well as:

Needing a federal license to own any firearm or ammo. To get one of these federal licenses you will
- ''(I) undergoes a criminal background check conducted by the national instant criminal background check system ..."
- ''(II) undergoes a psychological evaluation conducted in accordance with paragraph (2), ..."
- ''(III) successfully completes a training course, certified by the Attorney General, ..."

''(d) FIREARM INSURANCE.— The Attorney General shall issue to any person who has applied for a license pursuant to
subsection (c) and has paid to the Attorney General the fee specified in paragraph (2)

''(2) FEE.—The fee specified in this paragraph is $800.''. This fee is per year.

and on and on and on.

There is no grandfather clause, meaning this applies to anyone that owns a gun at all, not just those who purchase a new firearm after this passes.

"Not to be a downer but there is something to consider before purchasing anything in .50 cal. Currently there is a bill, HR 127 of the 117th Congress that:

''(dd)(1) It shall be unlawful for any person to possess ammunition that is 0.50 caliber or greater. ..."
That is just for starters. Liberal/Socialists/Controllers have insatiable appetites for power and control....".for you, not for thee" paradox. Once .50s are gone, they will be back for your .44, then, your 9mm......until all are gone. If only .50/semi-auto owners resist because others don't have the affected .50/semis, eventually they will get down to whatever pipsqueak "BB" bolt action/single shot projectile tosser you might have, and there will be no one else to resist. Welcome to Layered Control. It's coming. They have promised us.........ala Butto O'Dork as gun czar; Kamalatoe "if Congress doesn't act, I will in first 100 days....", et el. Sleazy, Creepy, Senile Ole Joey will sign whatever is placed in front of him. They just tell him it's "coloring book play time." We have acquiesced without meaningful, believable opposition. The enemy takes what he is given......and, never gives back freely.

 

[scope-eye]

Here we go from left to right 44 Mag, 454 Casull, 480 Ruger, 50 AE, and last but not least 500 S&W I think they are all 300gr except for the 44 Mag is a 240gr.

Dean

 

[scope-eye]

You are right about the 50 AE it is hidious, but on the good side it so heavy you can use it as a club when you run out of ammo.

Dean

 

[Pro2A]

Not to be a downer but there is something to consider before purchasing anything in .50 cal. Currently there is a bill, HR 127 of the 117th Congress that:

''(dd)(1) It shall be unlawful for any person to possess ammunition that is 0.50 caliber or greater. ..."

That as written will make the 500 S&W illegal to possess. This will come to be law as well as:

Needing a federal license to own any firearm or ammo. To get one of these federal licenses you will
- ''(I) undergoes a criminal background check conducted by the national instant criminal background check system ..."
- ''(II) undergoes a psychological evaluation conducted in accordance with paragraph (2), ..."
- ''(III) successfully completes a training course, certified by the Attorney General, ..."

''(d) FIREARM INSURANCE.— The Attorney General shall issue to any person who has applied for a license pursuant to
subsection (c) and has paid to the Attorney General the fee specified in paragraph (2)

''(2) FEE.—The fee specified in this paragraph is $800.''. This fee is per year.

and on and on and on.

There is no grandfather clause, meaning this applies to anyone that owns a gun at all, not just those who purchase a new firearm after this passes.

"A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie." – Vladimir Ilyich Lenin. The high licensing fee is revival of the Jim Crowe and Poll Tax Democrat playbook.....and, another step toward licensing/registration/confiscation. Germans used this play with the Jews pre-WWII. and, they played along. Ala why the Libs are calling that play again. If a play call is successful, it gets called until the opposition presents a decisive defense against it. Learn from history....or be doomed to relive it.

 

[esshup]

This comes at a good time, I was thinking about reloading the .480 empties that I have.

 

[longestrange]

50 BMG...660 gr APITs .....use as primary...no need for back-up! And if you miss...climb up the barrel and hide!

Do they make a revolver for that?

Here we go from left to right 44 Mag, 454 Casull, 480 Ruger, 50 AE, and last but not least 500 S&W I think they are all 300gr except for the 44 Mag is a 240gr.

Dean

Thanks for that pic! Was digging around comparing case capacity, etc. trying to convert load data from Hogden's CFE BLK page.

 

[NielsC]

I had a Golden Eagle 7000 in 458 Win Mag for Brown Bear. It had open sights which was the rule at the time. I sold it to a wealthy farmer that installed the most expensive scope he could find. I was told win he went to range is first round was a 600 grain armor piercing dangerous game load. To make a long story short he had 13 stitches and a scope with no cross hairs and a dislocated shoulder when he left. I don't think he ever went to Alaska.

 

[skipglo]

Do they make a revolver for that?

Thanks for that pic! Was digging around comparing case capacity, etc. trying to convert load data from Hogden's CFE

 

[skipglo]

Don't discount the single action heavies...you will find that thumbing the action on the way back down from recoil that it brings you back on-line with your target in a controlled manner and your follow up shots are far more accurate! Trigger pull is dramatically reduced as your action is cocked. I have seen NEW and experienced shooter's used to 9 mm recoil fire second shots using the double action either into the air 2 ft or more above the target to 4-5 ft left or right!

 

[longestrange]

Don't discount the single action heavies...you will find that thumbing the action on the way back down from recoil that it brings you back on-line with your target in a controlled manner and your follow up shots are far more accurate! Trigger pull is dramatically reduced as your action is cocked. I have seen NEW and experienced shooter's used to 9 mm recoil fire second shots using the double action either into the air 2 ft or more above the target to 4-5 ft left or right!

Everything's on the table.
Either way, I have a general question:
When to switch to backup? If a bear is charging, and you've got some space, probably keep working the rifle bolt. At some point he's gonna be too close to have time for working the bolt or, worst case, closer than the end of the barrel.
At some point, pumping a whole lot of rounds into him in a hurry might at least slow the charge.
Any thoughts?