30 NOSLER OR 300 PRC

[Deleted member 103481]

Bump because I want to build a 30 boomer.

From what I can find case capacity wise (water) we have:
300 win-94
30 Nosler-97
300 PRC- 97?
300 Norma -103.0
Norma Improved/RUM -110

I understand these vary by brass manufacturer.

My only limit is my suppressor is rated to 30-378, so I should have no issues with any of these it seems. The ability to use the 230 a tips at a useful velocity if I decide to would be cool, and possible keep me from wasting money on a 338&can down the road

 

[IdahoCTD]

If I remember right its more like 93 for 300wm, 95.5 for PRC, 99 for Nosler, 110 for Norma Imp, and 114 for RUM. I know the PRC is only 2.5 grains more than the 300wm.

I consider useful near 3000fps so I would start with a 30 Nosler and go up. I think the 30 Nosler would be 2950 in a 26" with 230's but that is just speculation until someone has them in hand and can see if they are similar to a 230 Berger for speed. I have some on ackorder but I'll probably use them in a 300RUM 8.5 twist.

 

[L.Sherm]

According to Frank Green at Bartlein and fuhrman on here Norma 300 WM and 300 PRC hornandy have the same H2O capacity

 

[FURMAN]

Norma/Nosler brass in 300 Win is the largest capacity at ~95 grains H2O
300 PRC Hornady is ~97 grains H2O(Bertram is much smaller)
30 Nosler Nosler brass is ~99 grains, Bertram is ~100 grains and ADG is ~101 grains
If you compiled the antidotal evidence available you will see that, while there will be overlap between the three cartridges, this will be the average with 215s and H1000 in a 26" barrel-

300 win 2900-3000fps
300prc 2950-3050 fps
30 nosler 3000-3100 fps

If performance is what you are after the 30 Nosler wins hands down. The 30 Nosler with ADG brass and N570 is going to approach RUM velocity with a fraction of the powder. I think the PRC is a huge disappointment. The 30 Nosler has become my favorite cartridge.

 

[Dry Heat?]

I love my 30 Nosler. I have the M48 by Nosler. Only shot Nosler Trophy Grade 210 LRAB so far. Wish I knew about ADG Brass last year. I bought Factory Ammo because the Nosler Brass was just about the same price. Gonna have to get those ADGs because I have lots of Load Development to do.

 

[Deleted member 25294]

Norma/Nosler brass in 300 Win is the largest capacity at ~95 grains H2O
300 PRC Hornady is ~97 grains H2O(Bertram is much smaller)
30 Nosler Nosler brass is ~99 grains, Bertram is ~100 grains and ADG is ~101 grains
If you compiled the antidotal evidence available you will see that, while there will be overlap between the three cartridges, this will be the average with 215s and H1000 in a 26" barrel-

300 win 2900-3000fps
300prc 2950-3050 fps
30 nosler 3000-3100 fps

If performance is what you are after the 30 Nosler wins hands down. The 30 Nosler with ADG brass and N570 is going to approach RUM velocity with a fraction of the powder. I think the PRC is a huge disappointment. The 30 Nosler has become my favorite cartridge.

Dang that 30 Nos with ADG brass is only 2 grains off the 300 NM!

If I were to do it over again I probably would have foregone the Lapua action and gone 30 Nos.

I'm beginning to shy away from overbore cartridges, and the 300 NM is right at my limit.

 

[FURMAN]

Dang that 30 Nos with ADG brass is only 2 grains off the 300 NM!

If I were to do it over again I probably would have foregone the Lapua action and gone 30 Nos.

I'm beginning to shy away from overbore cartridges, and the 300 NM is right at my limit.

This is why the 30 Nosler is my new favorite.

 

[L.Sherm]

Ah and throw the 30-28 in the mix.

 

[FURMAN]

Ah and throw the 30-28 in the mix.

It won't reach the next node. It may be a little easier on brass but I can run the 215 3100 in my Nosler about a grain below pressure.

 

[L.Sherm]

Might not but hopefully here in about 6 weeks I will find out.

 

[L.Sherm]

It won't reach the next node. It may be a little easier on brass but I can run the 215 3100 in my Nosler about a grain below pressure.

Is this what your doing with ADG brass

 

[Deleted member 103481]

It won't reach the next node. It may be a little easier on brass but I can run the 215 3100 in my Nosler about a grain below pressure.

Thanks for all the info! Have you loaded for 230s at all?

 

[FURMAN]

Is this what your doing with ADG brass

Adg will be even less pressure.

 

[L.Sherm]

Yeah. I was wondering if you switched to ADG from Nosler and getting 3100. I could with .225 reamer and H1000 but the Nosler brass was junk after 2 firings