Any above average reloader/shooter worth his salt knows not to put dwn one cartridge for another one that just shows lack of knowledge , lack of shooting ability , lack of real world hunting experience , lots of good common sence posts but some real laughable ones also . Champion your cartridge but don't put another down to do it !!! I've reloaded 30 odd yrs , and never owned a 264 w/mag , reloaded for one thou, Rem/700/bdl /older 1970"s era rifle 24 inch bbl ,choise imr 4350 /59.0 gns ...125nosler partition,r-p case federal 215 primer , took this load out of noslers manual ,reloaded 100count 5/boxes of ammo for this rifle an owner,heard two yrs later from a friend the owner had shot two fantastic Bucks bac to bac for two deer seasons yardage 400 /440 ! Guessing the speed was 3170 ish had no crnograph back then! Bought my first 270wsm 24 inch bbl savage md 14 American Classic it will average 3180 easy with a 140 GN boat tail bullet , point is Modern technology easily builds a comparable /if not more efficient carthridge .got a MRI /Mtn/eagle 270 wcf rifle 24 inch bbl /Krieger ,cm/1/10 tw 130 tsx 3175 easy/150 boatails 3050 easy , now give them both 26 inch bbls and still , they improve ! Now did I put dwn the 264 ? While telling you other options? No that's the Point let's keep it fun & enjoyable thks and let the Goodtimes role , we pay for them Dearly yes ! Regards