Maybe I'm not expressing this clearly. What I was expressing in my opinion is a experienced shooter can shoot whatever he wants and will be fine but a new or young hunter probably would be better equipped with a slightly larger caliber.
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22-250 for deer?
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I would have to agree with you on that a bigger caliber for a young hunter would be best
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I wouldn't use it at 200 yards like the OP wants with small bullets, but it would definitely be effective within 100 yards in anyone's hands.
aushunter1
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Do you have a legal calibre requirement in your state??
Some states here do & some don't.
Some like mine state just stipulate to use a cartridge capable of a humane kill.
Realistically it comes down to the size of the animal, here some small fallow species deer could easily be taken with even a .223 if juvenile of say 45kg, but what if you come across a male of 100kg.
If it was 100kg then I would want to be using a .243 with 100gr projectiles
Other states .277 or 270W as the minimum round & if you get caught with anything less then your in deep s*ite, possible take all your gear, your vehicle, possible imprisonment.
I have taken a 250+kg Sambar with a 270W with 130gr projectile & the placement was spot on but it still ran on 30 odd metres being shot at a distance of 70mtrs.
Many people would say(& they did) that to take an animal that size I should have had a minimum 30cal 150gr projectile range.
At the end of the day you have to ask is the round capable & am I capable enough to use it effectively??
Some states here do & some don't.
Some like mine state just stipulate to use a cartridge capable of a humane kill.
Realistically it comes down to the size of the animal, here some small fallow species deer could easily be taken with even a .223 if juvenile of say 45kg, but what if you come across a male of 100kg.
If it was 100kg then I would want to be using a .243 with 100gr projectiles
Other states .277 or 270W as the minimum round & if you get caught with anything less then your in deep s*ite, possible take all your gear, your vehicle, possible imprisonment.
I have taken a 250+kg Sambar with a 270W with 130gr projectile & the placement was spot on but it still ran on 30 odd metres being shot at a distance of 70mtrs.
Many people would say(& they did) that to take an animal that size I should have had a minimum 30cal 150gr projectile range.
At the end of the day you have to ask is the round capable & am I capable enough to use it effectively??
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This doesn't help the OP but Georgia's rule is centerfire .223 or larger. Georgia's DNR feel the .22 centerfires are adequate.
bigngreen
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The opposite is true though, I don't know how many times I've watched kids botch a shot because between the excitement and recoil they just have to much to manage, they see a little 223 and then they only worry about shot placement, that's why we have some use them on elk and they put it right though the slates every time. A 22-250 like the OP was asking about is just more awesomeness but you can drive a 22 cal bullet fast enough to blow so bullet choice is a little more critical IMO.
kiwikid
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Nathan Foster has some great info on what you are asking so here are the links to his site. He mentions reading the 220 Swift info too so I have linked that as well.
https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/.22-250.html
https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/.220+Swift.html
I have shot more than 100 deer with the 22-250 using either Sierra 55 grain Game Kings or Speer 55 grain Spitzer SP. Lately I have changed to the Norma 55 grain Oryx which is a bonded bullet.
Of all the Fallow, Red and a Samber that I have shot one needed a second shot, one ran about 20 yards (chest shot) and all the rest were DRT. Other than the one chest shot animal all of them were high neck shots from about 6 yards out to just over 300 yards. Practice and bullet placement is the secret with using HV 22 center fire rifles and my mentor told me that he would take me deer hunting (when I was 16) when I could consistently head shoot rabbits and hares at 200 yards.
I understand I have seen that myself . I handled that a little different with my daughter , she wanted to shoot a deer at 6 yrs old (I didn't think she was big enough) so I taught her how to shoot that following summer with my ruger heavy barrel 22 hornet . I bought her a Winchester compact (to big for her at the time)243 win so I had a gunsmith cut the stock to fit her added a good recoil pad . For three years she harvested 12 deer , one shot kills on all . I never let her shoot the 243 off the bench only at deer . We still practiced off the bench with the 22 hornet . Finally three years later I ask if the 243 kick any and she replied no dad it's just like the 22 hornet . She never noticed the difference while excited during hunting situations . I witnessed my brother in law introduce his son to a 7-08 at about 8 yrs old scared him to death . He never worked with him with a 22 for starters or anything.
hunter67wa
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I have shot deer with both 223 and 22-250 using 65 SGK with great results. I now have switched to the Nosler 64gr bonded and it hammers them. Farthest shot has been 279.
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When you get into these conversations wether it's a 6.5 creed for elk or a .223 for deer the case design has very little to do with the " killing". You see case designs shot gun slugs, sub sonic and everything in between and they all work. All the case has to do is propell the projectile fast enough to hit accurately and perform.
The 2 real factors that affect "killing" for harvest are shot placement and bullet performance. You put the bullet where it is supposed to go and the bullet performs- penetrates and expands the end results will always be the same no matter what case it's shot from.
I wouldn't use an explosive Varmint type bullet to hunt deer out of a 22-250. But a good soft nose, or controlled expansion bullet that will penetrate and expand will. " kill" quickly every time when it's placed correctly
The 2 real factors that affect "killing" for harvest are shot placement and bullet performance. You put the bullet where it is supposed to go and the bullet performs- penetrates and expands the end results will always be the same no matter what case it's shot from.
I wouldn't use an explosive Varmint type bullet to hunt deer out of a 22-250. But a good soft nose, or controlled expansion bullet that will penetrate and expand will. " kill" quickly every time when it's placed correctly
They work great I can't even count the number of deer I have shot/seen shot with the 22-250. My longest shot was 260 yards and I wouldn't hesitate to shot out to 350 if conditions are right.
Guys like me are posting facts based on real world experience [in this case actually using a 22-250 for deer]
Then you get the guys that have not shot deer with a 22-250 post disagreeing with us that have used them.
In fact I have borrowed my 22-250 out to multiple friends for their kids to use because it is a nice light recoiling gun for kids to start on.
Guys like me are posting facts based on real world experience [in this case actually using a 22-250 for deer]
Then you get the guys that have not shot deer with a 22-250 post disagreeing with us that have used them.
In fact I have borrowed my 22-250 out to multiple friends for their kids to use because it is a nice light recoiling gun for kids to start on.
Buxndiverdux
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My kids, nephew and niece have combined for over 40 deer with a .22 Hornet and a 45 grain pointed soft point.
I've shot dozens of deer with a .22-250. It uses almost triple the amount of powder as a .22 Hornet. The .22-250 is deer poison with the right bullet selection. I wouldn't hesitate to use it for deer.
I've shot dozens of deer with a .22-250. It uses almost triple the amount of powder as a .22 Hornet. The .22-250 is deer poison with the right bullet selection. I wouldn't hesitate to use it for deer.
I have had tremendous success on deer with this caliber shooting both 55 grain ttsx Barnes bullets and the misled partition 62grain bullet. I think your slow twist barrel will still stabilize the 62 grain pills.
