The last animal I had not drop to the shot was wth Hornady 162 sst, (and archery) I gave the sst more than a fair chance too. As far as group size vs seating depth that I've seen with my rifle, was tiny, so much so that I realized (I) could easily account for a much greater variation. I tried 5 different seating depths several times on different days before I just accepted that it's just a damned accurate load and should run with it.I have not found this to be the case. At least 75% of the animals I have shot or watched being shot ran with Berger 180s. The 215 I would say 75% of the animals I have shot have dropped instantly. The number of animals I have killed with each is roughly the same. In any case I have never found any bullet, including Berger, that was seating depth insensitive as many claim. As much as .005 change in seating depth can half or double group size. This is with over 50 loads developed.
He's referring to the .284 Winchester cartridge vs. the 7mm STW. He's saying the .284 Win is nowhere comparable to the 7mm STW in performance, by comparing a tricycle to a Kawasaki Ninja motorcycle...
You really should specify the cartridge.I am shooting the 215 also. In the rifle I just had built I could shoot it over 3100 but had some pressure signs. I settled on a load shooting 3060.
What 7mm cartridge are you shooting ?I don't shoot a a 30cal but 7mm, but what I've found with the 180gr hybrid has been right in line with the 215gr. Terminal performance is impressive to say the least, from what I've seen they don't care 2 cents wheather their .010 or .100 off the lands. I've also tried the classic hunter in several calibers with pretty much the same results across the board.
That is a quote that is in my signature, it was not posted as a quote in this thread. It's from MANY MANY years ago, I don't even remember what thread it was in, or the context, but obviously someone else in the thread was trying to compare the 2...And that was his response, pointing out that you can't even compare the 2 cartridges.haha. As I said, it was disconnected, meaning there was not enough information, in that statement, to figure out what he was talking about. As .284 and 7mm bullets are one and the same, I thought he was somehow referring to the STW using the .284 bullet, and had absolutely no idea what the tricycle and ninja thing was. I will say that the comparison is a bit lopsided.
True story! I fine tune to .005" with the 215's. It can make a pretty big difference in the shape of the group.I have not found this to be the case. At least 75% of the animals I have shot or watched being shot ran with Berger 180s. The 215 I would say 75% of the animals I have shot have dropped instantly. The number of animals I have killed with each is roughly the same. In any case I have never found any bullet, including Berger, that was seating depth insensitive as many claim. As much as .005 change in seating depth can half or double group size. This is with over 50 loads developed.
I shoot a 300 win mag as well.You really should specify the cartridge.
You should also state the powder. 3100 out of Win Mag is waaaaaaaay over pressure with h1000 even with a long barrel. That's pretty stout for a 30 Nosler with freebore and h1000.I shoot a 300 win mag as well.
At a fishing seminar right now - IAATC - Sheraton Harbor Isle - but maybe we can hook up sometime - go shoot? email - [email protected]And thanks from Poway. San Diego's neighbor . Hey tomsd ! Great thread guys ! Enjoy any to do with 300 WM and 300 RUM.