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The time has come for kids (15) to get their first real rifle….

Couple things I would base it on:
How interested are they in hunting?
How big are they frame wise?

My son was long and lean, I started him on a 22-250 with a break hunting woodchucks at 3 years old. By the time he was 5 I had rechambered the 22-250 to a 6 dasher and taught him how to reload and respect and maintain the rifle. I expected him to take care of it and I spot checked it. The dasher had a break on it and all along the time he was not scared of shooting and taught him good shooting form and habits. Since then he was involved in shooting competitions and was successful until he got burnt out traveling. So we primarily do long range hunting up until he went into the military. To this day he is very particular about his firearms. They are his babies and shoots very well.
Start them right. Fiberglass stock is a good option. Wood will mark. But keep in mind the lighter the firearm generally the more recoil.

If I was not building a custom and dependent on frame size and want factory rounds I would look at the following if they can handle recoil or have a good break on it.

6.5 creedmoore
308
7mm/08
7 prc

I never left my kid take or try a running shot on game because of ethics. I always told him to wait for the shot and if it presents itself take it or otherwise don't. So we always either had gun on sling or pack going in early morning or coming out and had some sort of support either shooting sticks, bipod, tripod.


Just my 2 cents.
 
One thing to remember is that they are still growing, what fits them today may not in a few years. We have Tikkas T3, Howa 1500, Vanguards, and Mark V's and all shoot well. I have 6.5 cm and 6.5 rpm, the 6.5 prc is in the middle. I would go prc over cm for a hunting rig. All of my kids got Rem. 700, but that was 30 some years ago. P.s., If you go light weight make sure barrel is threaded.
 
My twins are now 15 and the time has come. I told them I would buy them there first rifle and all the others are on them. So the million dollar question for you guys and I want to hear the opinions and why.

What would be the choice for a first rifle and why, what Modle caliber etc….

I just looked at the Winchester Modle 70 Super Grade in a 6.5 PRC and I'm not going to lie it was really hard to put down (Maple Stock) That rifle with a nice hunting scope would be amazing for everything up to black bear I think. I have also thought about a 270 for them or even a 30-06 because I want them to be able to find ammo etc. I have looked at the Modle 70's, Tika's, and also the XBolts. Other rifles I thought about are the Bagara's and maybe even a Weatherby even. Not sure if I love them that much 🤪🤣. I want them to be able to have this all their life if they so choose to do so. Budget 2k and under.

So let's hear it.

Thanks guys…..
My 2cents- for what it's worth, both my boys when they started hunting, I mean actually carrying a rifle they had a 270, it's what they're still using, one is 30, the other one is 22, everyone else can have their boutique guns, the 270 is still king, at least in our family!
 
6.5 CM ammo plentiful, accuracy with right load, can be loaded for most game here in North America and light recoil. I use mine for starting or beginning shooters, lots of good choices on this thread, from knowledgeable hunters, some target shooters. Pick em up let em try the fit and go from there. Half the fun is gun shopping hahaha. Just my 2 pennies.
 
Sig cross in 6.5CM would be cool. Or howa barreled action and pick your flavor of stock. Chassis are nice for lender rifles of different people shoot it. You can change cheek rise, length of pull, even weight or type of attachments
 
If it were me and I was buying for my kiddos first, I would go to cabelas and buy there Black Friday savage axis deal like $300 and comes with a scope, I'd buy 2 - .308 models. They come with composite stocks, and perfect scopes for first time owners to me this is a no brainer and the best box gun hands down. This way you can teach them the fundamentals and responsibilities of not only owning your own but also taking care of there own, and this way if it does get a little beat up at least it's not a $2000 rifle, and teach them that they can always slide that one to the back of the safe and buy another to upgrade.
 
My opinion would be to get a 7-08 in a Tikka. Pros are:
1. Short action to keep weight of rifle down for ease of shooting and carrying
2. Weather capable finishes for wet conditions without rusting
3. Plenty of power for deer and anything smaller (elk up to about 300+ yards depending on bullet) (look at ballistics)
4. Smooth action and accurate out of the box
5. $700 to $800 price tag last time I looked which leaves decent budget for scope and/or accessories.
6. You can load the bullets long with a couple of cheap part changes. (mag & bolt release IIRC)
7. Left and right hand models available

I would take them to a sporting goods store and let them shoulder some of the options preferably with a scope for the added weight.

Have fun!
 
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My twins are now 15 and the time has come. I told them I would buy them there first rifle and all the others are on them. So the million dollar question for you guys and I want to hear the opinions and why.

What would be the choice for a first rifle and why, what Modle caliber etc….

I just looked at the Winchester Modle 70 Super Grade in a 6.5 PRC and I'm not going to lie it was really hard to put down (Maple Stock) That rifle with a nice hunting scope would be amazing for everything up to black bear I think. I have also thought about a 270 for them or even a 30-06 because I want them to be able to find ammo etc. I have looked at the Modle 70's, Tika's, and also the XBolts. Other rifles I thought about are the Bagara's and maybe even a Weatherby even. Not sure if I love them that much 🤪🤣. I want them to be able to have this all their life if they so choose to do so. Budget 2k and under.

So let's hear it.

Thanks guys…..
Gotta go with "Rotten" here. Fitment (?) is everything.
IF it's going to truly be their gun then they need to find what really feels good to them. Old Dad will of course be right there for guidance & advice...(sales people will be there trying to sell the most expensive rifles they can😉). Me? Most any rifle today will last a lifetime if properly cared for. (Again - Old Dad advising) Most brands today are shooters after you properly scope them & find the ammo THAT rifle likes. Again, me? I wouldn't buy more gun than they need. (No use beating them up everytime they squeeze the trigger) Dead is dead. They don't need a .50 caliber Bo-mag if a .243 will do the job. It's shot-placement.... again enter: Old Dad. 😄 It sounds like you're raising them right. 😉👍
 
If it were me and I was buying for my kiddos first, I would go to cabelas and buy there Black Friday savage axis deal like $300 and comes with a scope, I'd buy 2 - .308 models. They come with composite stocks, and perfect scopes for first time owners to me this is a no brainer and the best box gun hands down. This way you can teach them the fundamentals and responsibilities of not only owning your own but also taking care of there own, and this way if it does get a little beat up at least it's not a $2000 rifle, and teach them that they can always slide that one to the back of the safe and buy another to upgrade.
Total agreement. They are shooters.🎯
 
I was also thinking about the 7PRC but I'm not sure how it will hold up long term. I think pretty **** well but we will see. I agree with you on the 6.5 PRC also. It's a great middle of the road round and can still kill clean even on an elk at 300 yards etc. I'm personally a fan of the 7PRC
7 PRC is here to stay, imo. It may be squeezing out 7rm. That said, 7 PRC is an adult, generally hunting only round. At 15, you want something they can shoot quite a bit and really become great shooters, not unlike your AR15 starter rifles. 6.5 PRC or 270 win aren't bad but may still be too much recoil. The 6.5 Creedmoor will be low recoil and can even be reduced with a brake. This allows them to be super accurate with a reasonable weight rifle. All this will encourage them to hunt and shoot more. They will go farther and perform better. With the right bullets 6 creed is a 500yd elk rifle in the hands of a great shot.

I honestly just don't know enough about the Howa's and that's why I wanted to reach out to some of you guys and get ideas and stuff to look at or into. I have seen them on a few shelf's but I have never touched one and pulled a trigger on one. Are they pretty good guns?
Howa makes the Weatherby Vanguard. I consider my dad's meat eater version a great rifle and good deal.
 
My twins are now 15 and the time has come. I told them I would buy them there first rifle and all the others are on them. So the million dollar question for you guys and I want to hear the opinions and why.

What would be the choice for a first rifle and why, what Modle caliber etc….

I just looked at the Winchester Modle 70 Super Grade in a 6.5 PRC and I'm not going to lie it was really hard to put down (Maple Stock) That rifle with a nice hunting scope would be amazing for everything up to black bear I think. I have also thought about a 270 for them or even a 30-06 because I want them to be able to find ammo etc. I have looked at the Modle 70's, Tika's, and also the XBolts. Other rifles I thought about are the Bagara's and maybe even a Weatherby even. Not sure if I love them that much 🤪🤣. I want them to be able to have this all their life if they so choose to do so. Budget 2k and under.

So let's hear it.

Thanks guys…..
I want them to be able to hunt almost anything they want. Factory ammo options for sure for them, mostly be a deer rifle and maybe out west. They can buy an Elk gun if they want. I was thinking maybe a 300WM but that's a little heavy for deer frankly in my opinion. Like I said I was looking at maybe a 270Win or something in that range.
This is just me, but I'd do a DIY/Pre-fit and make it a family project. They will have a better appreciation of it, and they get to pick their components while learning what it takes to put it together. I have built semi-custom (.257 WBY, .264 WM, .270 AI, etc.) using Savage LA with a tad over $1K. I could have done it under $1K, but I used better components and threaded the muzzle for muzzle devices. There are others, but R700 LA and Savage LA are excellent DIY to build upon.

The .300 WM (I have 3) remains my go-to chambering, but I recommend the .270 Win with a 1:8" or faster barrel. Good luck!
 
My twins are now 15 and the time has come. I told them I would buy them there first rifle and all the others are on them. So the million dollar question for you guys and I want to hear the opinions and why.

What would be the choice for a first rifle and why, what Modle caliber etc….

I just looked at the Winchester Modle 70 Super Grade in a 6.5 PRC and I'm not going to lie it was really hard to put down (Maple Stock) That rifle with a nice hunting scope would be amazing for everything up to black bear I think. I have also thought about a 270 for them or even a 30-06 because I want them to be able to find ammo etc. I have looked at the Modle 70's, Tika's, and also the XBolts. Other rifles I thought about are the Bagara's and maybe even a Weatherby even. Not sure if I love them that much 🤪🤣. I want them to be able to have this all their life if they so choose to do so. Budget 2k and under.

So let's hear it.

Thanks guys…..
You know, you would never go wrong with a 243 win., the 243 has killed all kinds of game. Less recoil. Just a great cartridge.
 
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