Burris Veracity PH

central iowa couple said:

Hey guys....I had asked the question earlier in this post...maybe I missed the answer..but is this scope legal in Colorado? Hopefully it is cause I love it

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Old Rooster said:

I sure hope the problem is with me as I shot my rifle with new Burris Veracity PH 4-20x50 on it and can't get the scope to print correctly.
I turned the elevation dial a full 20 MOA and it did not move point of impact.
Just wondering where the dial for HUD is the proper place to make an elevation move?
Anyone know this?

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xsn10s said:

Hey there bud. I don't have one so I cannot say. But there were some good videos on YT on how to set up the scope. Maybe watch them to get some pointers.

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Old Rooster said:

Watched a few video's and hope I got it right.I will try again soon as I have time and health to make a trip to the range.
Thanks

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xsn10s said:

Just in case you didn't see this one.

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Old Rooster said:

Still have the exact same problem.
I contacted Burris and was told to use Burris Signature rings and then try again.
Installed brand new Burris rings and still the same problem. A friend put it on one of his rifles and same thing.
They sent me RMA to send it in so it is on it's way to Burris.
I will report what they say. I put a Leupold 4.5-18 Mark 4HD on the same rifle and will try Monday to zero it if possible.

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WyoTex said:

Old Rooster, please don't take this the wrong way, as my intent is not to argue, but rather to help folks understand what manufacturers consider when building a product.

I'm a Quality Engineer in Aerospace Manufacturing, and love it when people say, "QC should have caught that!" (I get that a lot, incidentally) The more useful statement would be, "That defect should never have occurred!" But, since it did occur, the Quality Engineer in me would say, "let's make sure that defect never occurs again."

Relying on a Quality Inspector to catch everything that is required, is a fool's errand. I would bet my next paycheck that Burris feels the same way.

Quality Control, particularly in a high production environment, will not catch everything. That's because they select a representative Sample (One out every 20, 50 or 100 scopes, more or less) of overall production to inspect. They just simply will not catch everything, because not everything is 100% inspected. Performing 100% inspection of all product is cost prohibitive and would require a significant increase in the number of inspectors to perform these inspections, thus driving up the cost of the product. Not many people in this forum, or in America for that matter, would support higher prices, which is why so many buy Burris and Vortex in the first place. Cost, and generally, pretty good Quality.

Any Mfr's quality department is focused on Defect prevention. They try to Identify risk in the Manufacturing processes and refine those processes to prevent defects from occurring in the first place. Data used to identify risk is partially derived from customer returns and survey responses, but also from nonconformances detected internally (Defects that never make it to the customer). Trends are identified using that data, and the nonconformances identified that provide the 'Most Bang for the Buck' are addressed first, and usually through manufacturing process improvements.

It gets MUCH deeper than the above, but that's a pretty good 30,000' view of what Manufacturing quality's function is.

I'll get off my Soapbox, and hope the folks here have a better understanding of why defects escape a manufacturer.

JK

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Old Rooster said:

Still have the exact same problem.
I contacted Burris and was told to use Burris Signature rings and then try again.
Installed brand new Burris rings and still the same problem. A friend put it on one of his rifles and same thing.
They sent me Prepaid Return Shipping Label to send it in so it is on it's way to Burris.
I will report what they say. I put a Leupold 4.5-18 Mark 4HD on the same rifle and will try Monday to zero it if possible.

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