I will not be getting 'the vaccine'...

[Another Casual]

You are absolutely wrong about the motivation of Gates and his group also known as the Illuminadi and their goal is the New World Order. We are to dumb in their eyes to know what's in our own best interests. And since they are so much smarter than us, their elite little group need to have complete control in order to save the planet and us from our selves!!! Unfortunately in order for their plan to work they need to reduce the world population by 1/3 to 1/2 to be sustainable. And since they are so much smarter than us they will be the ones to choose who to eliminate! Our Constitutional Republic is in their way, and all our guns are a problem for them because we are just stupid enough to fight for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness!!! As for your THEORY about population spikes. Islam has always had 2 methods of attack on their enemies. The direct approach if they think they can win in an armed conflict. Or through attrition of their enemies are to powerfull. The come into a country, settle into tight communities and start pumping out babies. They don't assemalat into the new country's way of life or beliefs but instead raise the next generation to hate their new country and teach that with the help of Allah their generation or the next will overthrow the infidels and put them under Sharia law!!!! Since the inception of Islam this has been the pattern. How else do you think we got Islamic women in Congress. Minnesota is now nearing majority Islam and has been quietly trying to succeed. Obama flew plane loads of Muslims into this country and settled them into these enclaves. One such is Deerborn MN. If you as a woman stop in Deerborn alone, without a burka you are subject to be raped and murdered under Sharia law. Truckers are told to avoid these areas!!! If you don't believe me, try it. Let us know how it turnes out. I'll wait!

I don't even know where to start here. This entire tirade (and the last few you have posted) are completely off topic and unrelated to this thread or reality. I would implore you to question the motives of whatever echo chamber convinced you that any of this is factual.

I've never been to MN, but if I ever go I'll certainly take you up on your very scary and totally real challenge of stopping in Deerborn.

 

[Treeslug]

Bear with me a moment as I explain ...

My tactics with anything that I may have an interest in ... or anything that may affect my life, health, family, friends, career and hobbies (wildcat cartridge & projectile developments) etc, etc ...

Usually involve extensive and often intensive research and study before I make a judgement on.... or commit to....

And, I was raised to believe that Life is the single most precious gift bestowed upon mankind by God, and we must preserve and protect that precious "one time" gift of life with all our strength .... physical & mental .... and just as important emotional strength and compassion ...

Your life and health are precious to me too ......

Bear with me as I try to ask this question in a way that the answer will be comprehendible to my small brain. Are you saying that all of your research has led you to the conclusion that the vaccine is SAFE or have you determined that the vaccine is HARMFUL to humans? I may have missed this simple answer with all the different statements and attachments, but I ask you because I enjoy your posts and usually understand what you talk about.

I am not certain what this has to do with the vaccine question, but I did not grow up in a religious surrounding, therefore I did not develop the belief that life is the single most precious gift bestowed upon mankind by God. You may never forgive me, but I do not believe that all human life is precious, and indeed, I do not believe that all who possess a human form are truly human. From the time I was a child and spent time in a hospital visiting my younger brother, I have seen living people that I believe God would be doing that person and everyone concerned with that person a great favor by taking that person to a better place.

Having spent thirty years in law enforcement, I have seen so-called "humans" that should not have been allowed to exist. I will not argue either of these conditions of life with you because I do not argue religion with anyone. I completely accept your beliefs even though my beliefs may be vastly different. And I do not ask you to even consider my beliefs. I am okay with things the way they are.

The life of you and your family is important for me, too. Be safe, and give me your thoughts on the vaccine--good or bad. No explanation is neccessary.

 

[Treeslug]

1 Thessalonians 5:21,22
But test everything, hold fast what is good. Abstain from every form of evil.

For me, it is difficult to identify every form of evil these days. It must have been easier before the internet.

 

[Treeslug]

You are absolutely wrong about the motivation of Gates and his group also known as the Illuminadi and their goal is the New World Order. We are to dumb in their eyes to know what's in our own best interests. And since they are so much smarter than us, their elite little group need to have complete control in order to save the planet and us from our selves!!! Unfortunately in order for their plan to work they need to reduce the world population by 1/3 to 1/2 to be sustainable. And since they are so much smarter than us they will be the ones to choose who to eliminate! Our Constitutional Republic is in their way, and all our guns are a problem for them because we are just stupid enough to fight for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness!!! As for your THEORY about population spikes. Islam has always had 2 methods of attack on their enemies. The direct approach if they think they can win in an armed conflict. Or through attrition of their enemies are to powerfull. The come into a country, settle into tight communities and start pumping out babies. They don't assemalat into the new country's way of life or beliefs but instead raise the next generation to hate their new country and teach that with the help of Allah their generation or the next will overthrow the infidels and put them under Sharia law!!!! Since the inception of Islam this has been the pattern. How else do you think we got Islamic women in Congress. Minnesota is now nearing majority Islam and has been quietly trying to succeed. Obama flew plane loads of Muslims into this country and settled them into these enclaves. One such is Deerborn MN. If you as a woman stop in Deerborn alone, without a burka you are subject to be raped and murdered under Sharia law. Truckers are told to avoid these areas!!! If you don't believe me, try it. Let us know how it turnes out. I'll wait!

Wow, you remind me of--me!

 

[Swamplord]

Bear with me as I try to ask this question in a way that the answer will be comprehendible to my small brain. Are you saying that all of your research has led you to the conclusion that the vaccine is SAFE or have you determined that the vaccine is HARMFUL to humans? I may have missed this simple answer with all the different statements and attachments, but I ask you because I enjoy your posts and usually understand what you talk about.

I am not certain what this has to do with the vaccine question, but I did not grow up in a religious surrounding, therefore I did not develop the belief that life is the single most precious gift bestowed upon mankind by God. You may never forgive me, but I do not believe that all human life is precious, and indeed, I do not believe that all who possess a human form are truly human. From the time I was a child and spent time in a hospital visiting my younger brother, I have seen living people that I believe God would be doing that person and everyone concerned with that person a great favor by taking that person to a better place.

Having spent thirty years in law enforcement, I have seen so-called "humans" that should not have been allowed to exist. I will not argue either of these conditions of life with you because I do not argue religion with anyone. I completely accept your beliefs even though my beliefs may be vastly different. And I do not ask you to even consider my beliefs. I am okay with things the way they are.

The life of you and your family is important for me, too. Be safe, and give me your thoughts on the vaccine--good or bad. No explanation is neccessary.

Man has the freedom to choose, as so it should be, the choices we make often come with rewards or repurcussions ..
Our chosen actions create reactions and we all will face our rewards eventually

My personal research has convinced me not to take any of these Covid vaccines, there is simply no empirical data that indicates they are safe, what the evidence shows is they are in testing phase, allowed by this covid emegency and I refuse to be a test subject

a very dear friend who is a health care worker got the first shot and it nearly killed her and she has never fully recovered, many such instances in my State as the propoganda is pushed heavily here that lockdowns and masking orders can only be eased if ALL get the vaccine

There is something sinister behind this and you don't have to be religious, just open your eyes and question everything, dig for information

The choice is yours

 

[Treeslug]

I don't even know where to start here. This entire tirade (and the last few you have posted) are completely off topic and unrelated to this thread or reality. I would implore you to question the motives of whatever echo chamber convinced you that any of this is factual.

I've never been to MN, but if I ever go I'll certainly take you up on your very scary and totally real challenge of stopping in Deerborn.

Casual, it is me again, your friend treeslug. As for Stumpgrinder being on topic, that is debatable, but I will not debate. But--his claim that Dearborn Michigan is becoming a thriving Islamic community is more than folklore. I can not claim to know how many Muslims are in Michigan, but there is reason to take notice.

 

[MOOSE39465]

This has been beat to death. I will be honest I haven't read every post, but I think it's time to move on. We got all the freedom to make choices we feel are best. 40 pages later I feel everyone has voice there opinion, and its time to put this one to rest.

 

[Another Casual]

Casual, it is me again, your friend treeslug. As for Stumpgrinder being on topic, that is debatable, but I will not debate. But--his claim that Deerborn Michigan is becoming a thriving Islamic community is more than folklore. I can not claim to know how many Muslims are in Michigan, but there is reason to take notice.

The religion of others is no business of mine, nor is it an indication of their intent. His claim that you will be raped and murdered for not wearing a hijab is simply not true. Same for all the illuminati new world order talk and other conspiracy peddling/fear mongering.

 

[Treeslug]

Man has the freedom to choose, as so it should be, the choices we make often come with rewards or repurcussions ..
Our chosen actions create reactions and we all will face our rewards eventually

My personal research has convinced me not to take any of these Covid vaccines, there is simply no empirical data that indicates they are safe, what the evidence shows is they are in testing phase, allowed by this covid emegency and I refuse to be a test subject

a very dear friend who is a health care worker got the first shot and it nearly killed her and she has never fully recovered, many such instances in my State as the propoganda is pushed heavily here that lockdowns and masking orders can only be eased if ALL get the vaccine

There is something sinister behind this and you don't have to be religious, just open your eyes and question everything, dig for information

The choice is yours

I have been saying for a long time, both here on this forum, and to anyone willing to let me flap my gums, that we are all being lied to. We are being lied to about so many things that not everyone is willing to even consider what they are being told, and then study to find out the truth. That is too much trouble. Thanks for your opinion. Sleep well.

 

[Treeslug]

The religion of others is no business of mine, nor is it an indication of their intent. His claim that you will be raped and murdered for not wearing a hijab is simply not true. Same for all the illuminati new world order talk and other conspiracy peddling/fear mongering.

You may be 100 % right, but something bad is happening all around us every day, and someone or something IS responsible. Or is this all just one big nightmare?

 

[antelopedundee]

Here are some real numbers anyone can look up. Go back over the past 5 or 10 years and search the annual number of deaths from all causes in the USA. When I did this search I found that the death rate from ALL causes in America in 2020 was on average or a little BELOW average over the past 5 to 10 years. The media arm of the Democrat Socialist party would have us believe that 200,000 or so MORE people died in 2020 due to covid19, so then shouldn't that average of all deaths from all causes be higher than the average of previous years by that same amount? But please DON'T take my word for it, check it out for yourselves. The Apostle Paul told his followers to question everything, even what he told them. I live by that advice!!!!

Did they break that 2020 number down into categories?

With fewer people driving and commuting to work were traffic deaths down? How about the flu? The say flu deaths are way down this year; likely due to the same precautions that people are taking to avoid exposure to COVID, plus a lot of school kids are home so they aren't dragging school problems home with them. The official sources are yet close to the death total for 2020.

From my cursory searching.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db355.htm

https://apnews.com/article/us-coronavirus-deaths-top-3-million-e2bc856b6ec45563b84ee2e87ae8d5e7

https://usafacts.org/articles/preli...deaths-in-2020-than-2019-coronavirus-age-flu/

 

[Another Casual]

You may be 100 % right, but something bad is happening all around us every day, and someone or something IS responsible. Or is this all just one big nightmare?

If you surround yourself with negativity, it's all you'll see. If all the news you read is designed to make you fear your neighbors, it's all you'll feel.

Lots to be happy about living where we do in the time we do.

This too shall pass.

 

[Swamplord]

Engineered crisis will be the main event again, shortly ... won't go into detail but it has everything to do with the gun control agenda and squelching conservative voices

Boogeymen terror groups like ISIS, Al Qaeda etc. will magically reappear and chaos will ensue, and they will send our boys to the sands one last time

on home turf we will see the rise of the mythical "white supremacist" domestic terror (orchestrated) events take place under this administration, these events are choreagraphed and rehearsal is ongoing as we speak

Nothing happens by chance, they are following a script

Ordo ob chao ..... Order out of chaos

they create the chaos, then swoop in to "save us"

and yes, all of this is part of the covid-19 pandemic and vaccine scenario , a means to an end, under their direction and control

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[nmbarta]

Engineered crisis will be the main event again, shortly ... won't go into detail but it has everything to do with the gun control agenda and squelching conservative voices

Boogeymen terror groups like ISIS, Al Qaeda etc. will magically reappear and chaos will ensue, and they will send our boys to the sands one last time

on home turf we will see the rise of the mythical "white supremacist" domestic terror (orchestrated) events take place under this administration, these events are choreagraphed and being practiced as we speak

Nothing happens by chance, they are following a script

Ordo ob chao ..... Order out of chaos

they create the chaos, then swoop in to "save us"


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Man, I wish you were just some crazy nut on the internet. It's not hard to find a solution to problem that never existed, and then claim you fixed it. It's a bit like going to your mechanic because your car won't start and getting bill for a new carburetor belt.
"she's good to go" he says. All he did was charge the battery, knowing you'll be back for another carburetor belt. The sad part isn't that he keeps selling carburetor belts, it's that we keep buying them.....at some point, this car don't start...it'll be time for a new one, but this car doesn't come with options. You get what you get and you don't throw a fit.